Shipwright | Quadropolis

Pyccna | 2014-07-03 00:47

Shipwright

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Blurb A map just because

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Gentlemen... Behold!
Yet another Egypt map, but not like many of them.
Requires Soc's Egyptian Texture Pack
Special thanks to Fatality & Chaster_aka_you for map help.

Map file shipwright.zip (1.9 MB)

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Suicizer | 2014-07-03 06:29

Please stop the freaking pictures within a node or comment. They aren't making it better on any aspect. 9Gag and 4chan are a few blocks further away.

Nyne | 2014-07-03 07:49

Welcome to the internet.

Edit: Also: How about to comment about the node instead of starting another flame? This is why we cant have nice things here.

Pyccna | 2014-07-03 15:42

Why can't we have a little fun on this site? Memes are a perfect way of getting new & fresh users & I applaud everyone for using them.
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Suicizer | 2014-07-03 17:59

They are the perfect way to show off you shouldn't take the comment or node seriously and shouldn't spend time on it at all. That's why I won't check out this map.

P.S.
You could rather show off some more screenshots from the map than just a ship which is in maintenance and some pyramid shrouded by some weird coloured fog.

Pyccna | 2014-07-03 18:21

So don't vote on it then, post nothing, and ignore the node?
& that weird coloured fog is called "humidity"
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skiingpenguins | 2014-07-03 19:57

use fogdome to blend fog with skybox.

Suicizer | 2014-07-03 20:13

Humidity isn't something which seems to fit an Egyptic themed map (especially with no flora at all according to the screenshot).

Also, work on your combination of detailing and blendmapping; the dirt on top of the white stones looks quite weird. If you would make it less flat, it would look way more natural.

Papriko | 2014-07-03 18:37

skiingpenguins | 2014-07-03 19:58

perhaps the problem is people are being too serious.. O_o

Papriko | 2014-07-03 10:13

"Requires Soc's Egyptian Texture Pack" Aren't those included by default now? That eye thingy and those trims look pretty familiar to me and I only have default textures.

Q009 | 2014-07-03 11:13

The included pack is not complete. This map requires the complete pack I presume

Pyccna | 2014-07-03 15:36

Yep, complete pack.
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Chasester_aka_you | 2014-07-08 00:45

What happen to people posting critiques on maps ??

Pyccna | 2014-07-08 02:02

Let's play pick an excuse!
1. I'm too lazy
2. Everything posted on Quad now is so below my level it's not worth my time
3. Everything NOT made by me is utter crap and does not deserve my attention for my hubris is so large it has its own gravity and my soul got trapped in low-orbit and burned up upon reentry
4. I quit Quad because of the sheer amount of jackasses in the Cube community
5. Fuck it, just because
6. My internet blows
7. I'm too lowly to critique maps
8. I'm bad at mapping & think I have no authority to critique
9. How the hell do I use this damn site?
10. I quit Quad, fuck y'all
11. I'm pissed off because there's an extra picture on the node referencing a joke I obviously missed & refuse to critique it even though I voted just to prove a redundant point
12. I got banned for some bullshit
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Fatality | 2014-07-08 05:44

Ardelico | 2014-07-09 02:11

you forgot 13 and 14.

13: its Friday the 13th and I'm celebrating Jason day by sawing up your neighborhood.
14: currently /while 1'ing, for all eternity.

Chasester_aka_you | 2014-07-09 02:06

Ok in lack of any real critiques:

Lighting:

Lazy much ...

Setting sunlight to 255 255 255 and just lighting some of the fires is not a proper lighting scheme.
Always (on out door maps) use skylight (unless u do a manual ambient light). Basically this creates your indirect sunlight. Light that bounces off the wall and onto another surface (cuz calculating light bouncing around would be very costly). Basically how it works is any pixel that has a direct light to any of the skybox will be lit with an ambient of this value. This creates a fake ambience in areas that are not directly in view of the sun but should not be entirely dark.

change:

sunlight from (255 255 255) to (200 170 100)
skylight from (0 0 0) to (100 85 50) .. generally its half the sunlight on most day maps and like 75% on night maps (but of course this is map dependent so play with it.
ambient (60 60 60) to (20 20 20).. generally having this high of an ambience is bad.

Layout:

Your map is to cluttered, For flow reasons you should avoid large areas with are quaities of stuff in the middle or small rooms with a center piece in the middle. Larger spaces should have one center piece and smaller spaces should have any details or models pushed to the outsides of the area.

change

Remove all the cammels (as cool as they are they really dont work in any of the spaces u put them).
Remove all of the items infront of the red base (between the wall and the boats (save the items along the boat)) This causes an inablity to move forcing players into narrow walkways.
Change the red boat so the ramp to the top of the boat is moved towards the sea so that players have better movement under the boat (clip and edit to help with this movement)
Remove all the kiosis (store things) that are in the middle of the blue base plaza, (forces players into narrow paths, limiting their ability to dodge).
Remove all center pieces in small rooms (like the stand of vases on the left side of the blue base). Move the details to the outside and corners of the rooms (or remove them entirely.
Add details to the area around the blue flag, and replace the texture (it just looks bad, the white what ever that is).
Remove the vases on the blue base bridge (causes serious flow problems (keeps cliping on the sides of them))
Remove the death clip from the water, and allow more ways to get onto the boat (death clip is irrational, and there is only one way onto the boat (easy to snipe.
Either remove the underworking tunnels or add more routes (long narrow stretches are bad, so add more horizontal play or add more curves. (and light the tunnels)

Probably a lot more i could mention but that should give you a good start :)

chasester

Pyccna | 2014-07-09 22:07

Okay, I did everything suggested except...
The skylight to 100 100 100 & ambient to 40 40 40, because I want it to look like dawn rather dusk
Removed most cover in front of the Red Base, moved camels so you can't easily camp the entrances
Left the Health Camel in the market & the kiosks on the right wall (just so it still looks somewhat like a market)
Left the water as death as the Healthboost on the longboat is a great reward & the deathclip hides some material issues with the boat, I did add a teleport to the boat though.
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Fatality | 2014-07-09 23:29

This is actually a pretty awesome map, the lighting seems fine to me, your structures are awesome too.

There are some definite flow issues though, like when you climb a ladder on the two main ships you run right into a wall/beam thing. If you need help with flow at all I'd be willing to help.

Also, nice spiral stairs ;P

Pyccna | 2014-07-10 00:39

I'd like to see what you can do with it, hopefully open-heart surgery isn't needed.
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Fatality | 2014-07-10 11:13

Okay, well I didn't change much, after looking at it more and realizing it's probably more suited for regen capture, which is a slower paced mode, the flow is mainly fine. I did though move one of the ladders to a better spot, remove some boxes in the center, move the statue/pillar thing in the center back a bit for easier access to the canoes in the water, add another plank where one of the oars from the bigger ships meets the deck, so that you don't fall right into the hull, and no-clip the planks on the ground. A bunch of little things but that make a huge difference. Feel free to keep anything or discard it all. Here's the map:

http://www.mediafire.com/download/bu15k7bn55bwh4r/shipwright.ogz

Pyccna | 2014-07-10 16:01

I added all those changes into the newer version, except the plank on the ship as I just extended the deck a little bit. :P Thanks a bunch!
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Chasester_aka_you | 2014-07-10 01:28

ya that map is much more playable now :)

you should fix the wood so it runs correctly by using vrotate commands :)

chasester

Pyccna | 2014-07-10 01:41

Uuuuuuhm, which wood?
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Chasester_aka_you | 2014-07-10 03:26

i just remember seeing some .. id just do i quick spot test to make sure it look good :p

Pyccna | 2014-07-10 03:56

The only one that's really obvious to me is the canoes. I'll keep looking though.
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Ardelico | 2014-07-10 01:50

You know, this is a pretty cool map. For one, that crocodile fountain is fucking pimp.

But, lightprecision 16 and lightlod 8 makes all the difference.

Pyccna | 2014-07-10 02:15

That's Sobek :P
I would love to have it as precise as possible, but file size is a much higher priority :P
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Ardelico | 2014-07-10 02:19

Ooh ooh, Sobekodile, got it.

You must have bad internet if file size is a burden to you?

Pyccna | 2014-07-10 02:26

Yessir, that I do.
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Pyccna | 2014-07-13 23:43

I've uploaded a newer version of this map. I've made a few changes including some to weapons & looks, especially around the blue base.
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