Blood frontier was doomed to fail from the start.

Failure like all who came before
chasester

Well bloodfrontier isnt à Bad Game but imo its hard to get used to it when you played sauer before.
And the Problem is , there are too less people playing it , although its One of the Best free-Games on the World Wide Web . You will Never find Games like Blood f. And sauer again .

The reason Why there arent many Maps is that there arent much people playing it.
I would really like the idea to Release à Boxed Version of sauer and Blood frontier , so that People are able to buy them.

Its like (Idk if you Know this company ) "gamigo" , which is releasing à lot of good online Games for à price of 10 euros ( Yes im Living in europe )

with à boxed Version this games can get opened to People all Over the World .
But i also Know this is à hard procedure to go through .

Well thats my opinion ^^

i prefer sauerbraten to bloodfronter

My reasoning:

Ive said this before but here it is again. Bf is failing because it is based on a slow play like assualt. Sauerbraten is a fast paced game (or twitch based) based off of quake. Assualt was cube 1's version of bf. The reason bf is failing is that it will not get any community members from Sauerbraten (because of the differing game play), and assualt people will not switch over because they like living in the dark ages; they are commfitatble with assualt and do not plan on switching (ive know quite a few of them).

Point being that bf is doomed to fail unless it can create a new community without relying on any help from the assualt or sauerbraten communities. Marketing it as a box set could help bring in outsiders but it can also be a flop and create money issues.

Fail like all who came before
chasester

People who can't create criticize. XD

I've been off the project for a long time, so it wasn't progressing. In general, it was becoming too MP oriented, so we're working on splitting the MP from the campaign versions. Campaign will very gradually increase the player's stats to the same point that they are in MP, which is extremely fast and twitchy.

Reasons I've been away are varied - I wasn't happy with the way that things were progressing towards heavy MP focus instead of co-op/SP, so it felt like it was getting farther away from what it was when I released the very first beta. In the past year I've been in school for software engineering, which eats up several hours a week, and then there's work, finding work, getting married, finding a house, buying a house, moving, fixing up the house, trying to make new contacts and friends in a city I've never lived in before, and nearly having my mom die on me after doctors overmedicated her for a condition that can only be fixed by surgery.

I'm back now, and I'm dedicating one to two hours per night to the project in a scheduled manner until it's done. At that point, we're talking about spinning off two separate versions: One destined for MP only and one destined for co-op/SP only, which we'll aim at polishing, removing some of the contributed content(due to licensing issues - it'll definitely stay in the free game I hope!) and replacing it with newer stuff, as well as doing an Abuse-type side scroller, all three of which will be aimed at acceptance by Steam and D2D.

At this point, we're no longer accepting a lot of input from the community. The gameplay is pretty refined at this point, and we're going to work on both solidifying that and making it gel with what the original vision for the project was. To that end, we'll be simplifying things - teams have been cut down from 4 to 2, and we're working on the SP/Campaign mode.

There are test maps for campaign that do have monsters in them which can be played co-op. We'll be focusing on developing the AI and new monsters and enemies to throw into the mix, as well as a director type system for constantly and randomly populating the maps.

We do need good mappers, but I'm sorry to say that our documentation right now really sucks, so it may not be super easy to look up any points that are confusing.

We DEFINITELY need people willing to work on documentation and keep up with the changes.

Also at this point, I won't be doing any further work on scenery/map models. Anyone who wants to help add to that is more than welcome - we could really use it, since the existing map models are pretty limited.

We're far from dead, despite a blow-up that was due to some bad communication on both mine and Quin's part, mostly mine(although we were both waiting for the other one to choose a direction to move in, which is funny), but that stuff is resolved and the game is now moving forward towards 1.0. So if you want to get in and lend a hand(if you can, hahah), now's the time!

As always, we're at #bloodfrontier on freenode.net, but the forums on the website are also a good way to reach someone since we're not always online.

-Acord

Ok to clearify (something i have to do a lot):

What my point was that trying to leach people off of assualt and sauerbraten was unpractical. As i stated before, bf is doomed if it does not create its own community with out trying to steel people from other cube version. As stated above the slow game play (yes it is a slow statigic gameplay; like games such as: hallo battlefront call of duty etc). Comparitive to quake style game play this game completely redoes the tipical idealism of the orignial cube (cube 1 and sauerbraten). Such as assualt was formed to from people that played cube 1 but from its own community, there bf can not rely on the community of other cube game types.

Realistally bf is way better than any other of the cube game plays. It has the advancement of the editing mode, a better server protical, and the gameplay is more balenced (than say sauerbraten). I am not knocking the sheer knowledge or wisdom used to play the game but rather the marketing that the game is targeting.

Point being that bf, as said countless times, MUST CREATE ITS OWN COMMUNITY, apart from and with no reliance of the leaching of the other cube games. If this is not accomplished BLOOD FRONTIER IS DOOMED TO FAIL.

Lovable Jerk
chasester