probably on the server, because else it would get 2 easy to modified the fragcount system, exept if ur the hoster of the server of course :P.
but actually, i dunno how 2 do that, i dunno wanna know actually...

@suic: its good giving an opinion for something discussed. but as widely known, either post something of usefulness, or don't post at all. you are in the middle. you post on everything that comes up, either if your reply is useful or not, but most of the time its of no actual use (see: *cheers 4 quin* *cheers 4 misan*). grow up? xD

now back to the topic
ping lag for me is something like setting targets offset their should-be place. there are 2 lag factors:
1) ping lag of the fragged player
2) ping lag of the fragging player
If the ping lag of both the players is 100, then both of them combines is 200, as both the weapon-shot request and the player-hit request have to travel from player 2 to server to player 1. If the ping lag is too high, you have the effect of the offset as i said at first. the player is actually ahead of what the server tells his position is, and cannot keep up with the delays. An example of this is that in instagib with a big ping lag, you shoot a player a couple of times and he doesn't die. While the hit is registered in your game, the hit actually never makes it to the other player's game because of the lag offset. so in his game it appears like you missed. If one player ping lags, then the rest of the players will have a hard time with him, as his hit request is actually correct (judging that the player that he aims doesn't ping lag) so even when it arrives late to the server (and then at your game), it was registered accurate and so you get killed much more easily by him that you would kill him. This offset also implies for the normal lag, where your machine just can't put up with the map, and while it struggles to cooperate with the map, it is late on sending the required info on the server, although you don't ping lag.

Hope this answers your troubled thoughts :D

By your post it means on the "server"

Then yes, it helps my troubled thoughts. :P

so actually, in principe, lagging is a way of cheating, because if most people use the official version of sauerbraten, they arent lagging then. (so they probably r using the internetconnection 4 sumthing else to) if its because of ur sauer and ur shitty internet connection, then other people still got that disadvantage, what some of them couldnt get at the same type. because other people cant get the lag u can, u could call it cheating.

u agree that? :P

Not really since the kill is on the server. The game is easier for someone with a low ping. The server execute more accurately commands of someone with a low ping.

I was talking with some american players and that is the reason they dont participate on PSL. It is something even the organizers of PSL agree, people with a higher ping play worst because of their ping.

So it brings an interesting question.. if I am "that good" with a high ping (240), can you imagine the damage I could do with a low ping? :)

@suicizer
The version of Sauerbraten should not matter, and "Lagging" is not cheating. If you have high latency it can be hard to hit you, but you will also have trouble hitting somebody else.

Note: Please use complete words for the sake of understandability. u, 4, r, ur, get really annoying and hard to read, consider taking some time to actually type the word. "You, For, Are, Your."

it was just in principe, dont take it to detailed :P.

btw, yes k ill try to use more "full" words...

Makes perfect sense. :)

Which explains why two people with rifles or in insta can shoot each other and both die. ( A feature I love ) :) Rather than one or the other like some games.

Check your internet connection. Are you behind a fire wall?

firewalls shouldnt slow down internet connections -_-

That depends, are your ethernet cables melting? :)

fire walls can, if they are attached to a server base, such as a campus (univerity) or library. The firewall must check all packets before leting them enter the network (checks for viruses bus trojans etc).