Sorry I have to say it: that´s some boring layout. I´d get lost playing it too.

What´s the upper half of the map for?
It looks nice, but noone ever sees it too much...
Why is there so much stuff in that tower?

I really like the geometry and texturing, those are uber, well done. But the most important part - being layout is somewhat boring. Running in endless tunnels is just boring and it affects gameplay too when most of the action is happening in the "same" corridors not offering much change for situations.

Building a map of this size and detail takes a lot of time and I really appreciate that. I look forward in seeing your next map, thumbs up. ;)

I would like to rate this map higher, but the layout is just too important part to neclect. :(
3/5

Geometry and texturing = great

The layout is all the same and very repetitive and there is nothing to see overall.
Just that this is not a type of a map that you'd play on, really.

On the bright side, I am looking forward to something similar with a good layout!

I'm not sure what you would like the rating for - but if it's for the layout - 1/5, for graphics - 3/5 (needs more experimentation or similar)

... if you wanted to show how boring monasteries really are - you succeeded!

But I like it as a graphical demo.

Awesome detail and atmosphere, but as people already said, the layout isn't that good :]
This map would be really funny as a SP map though, the dark and repetive tunnels would make it more exciting as a SP map :)
Detailing and lightning is 5/5, layout is 2/5

I was really impressed when I've seen this map for the first time, some months ago, and again, I couldn't restrain myself to write an enthusiastic comment, now that you've made it available to the public.

First off, the architecture and texturing are simply awesome: this map is a joy for the eyes, especially for those (like me) with a passion for middle ages and ancient buildings. It works quite fast even on my old computer, as opposite as I had thought.

The size, and the long corridors make it a bit dispersive if we're considering ffa and especially instagib, but works perfectly in DMSP mode (just tested before, with lots of monsters) and the fun is guaranteed, also it would be great if used as a scenery for an SP mission, to me.

Back to online DM and capture mode, I can't be as drastic as the previous comments did, in my judgement: what happens in almost every popular map? People concentrate on the main open space, until the big carnage happens. So, in your map, people would have more chances to get lost between those long corridors, therefore facing random people on 1 vs 1 duels, and the fun would be more than when you have 15 players shooting each others in a bullet's orgy.

Clearly, I'm talking about big matches with at least 10 persons or more, otherwise it would be hard to find each others, but as stated on the features, this is a large map, and works better when crowded.

My rating is 5/5, congratulations for your efforts: I think such a big commitment deserved to be recognized.

This is a visually pleasing and _sexy_ map! I love the bump maps, the reflections on the floor and the overall feel that this map gives the player, that its an old monastery. I also think the sky dome beautifully fits the colour scheme, etc.,.

I'm wondering if its too much to ask you if you can write up a small paragraph explaining how you guys do those complex shapes simply using heightmaps and brushes. (or do you guys use some other tool other than heightmap + brush to do these things?). I'm new to mapping and I can't seem to find any info on how people do these complex shapes like arches, 'smooth' curved surfaces, etc.,.

Thanks!

-Suraj

is very god, but i think not ended.
It have some rare thinks, for example. The church is a romanic type, but the windows and the roof are gothic. Global style of monastery is gothic, but gothic walls have regular bricks, not that style. is strange. Cloister will be better with grass. See pictures on net to understand the diference betwen romanic and gothic. Anyway, the map is really good, congratulations, i hope you work in. :-)

This is (from what i've seen) a fairly rare form of map: fully textured. However, the layout is kinda boring for mp, but would make a great sp map if you opened up some of those doors and added monsters.

A problem I've been having with several maps now: I'm missing the sound folder 'packages/ambience'. Could someone send me a copy? (kofan@pngusa.net) Thanks.

The map surely looks awesome, and you seem to have put a lot of work into it, but in my opinion it is too 2D. I just dont like invisible walls and it is not good for skilled gaming if rocket jumping and vertical tactics arent possible.

3/5