Epic as with Earth Station ;)

I see a face in your screenshot! Spectacular map man.

Glad to see new mappers in the scene. It's a breath of fresh air.

The map theme is pretty nice. It's nostalgic in a sense by using older textures, but does it in a refreshing way with modern geometry and styling. I also like your use of mapmodels -- especially the AC pipes. Good taste. There's also some really nice geometry sprinkled throughout the map. I like the industrial piping and big circular walls next to the jumppads, and I'm a big fan of the teleport exits.

The layout is really confusing, though. The flagstand is in a really awkward spot making only one flagrun actually viable. Going any other way puts you deeper in enemy territory, or straight into a wall with some awkward boxes you have to jump over. Once getting over the boxes, you're forced to just turn around again and take the other path because there's a wall there. It's pretty clunky.

There are spots that look like you should be able to reach them, but are just barely too high to jump to. A good example would be to the side of the flag stand next to the grenade/shells pickups and the awkward boxes I mentioned earlier. It looks like you put a barrel there, presumably to help you jump up onto the ledge, but its still not high enough to make the jump without at least a pistol. In insta, riflejumping off the barrel would send you pretty high and make it harder to land on the ledge without falling off.

The quaddamage is in a weird spot. Grenade jumping for the quad is sort of odd, especially since once you're in there you can just camp and kill anyone else trying to jump up through the tiny shaft to the quad room. Easiest quad control I've ever seen. I'd maybe try putting a teledest above it so you just fall back down through the chute and continue on your way.

I like your use of particles in the main exhaust chute, but the envmap above it is pretty buggy and makes the walls look sort of ugly. I'm wondering if it's not worth it to just remove it entirely. I'm sure you can use /vshaderparam to give it that sheen if you really want to.

Lastly, in certain spots I get console spam with the message "could not load packages\models\ac_models\makke\barrel\tris.md3". Maybe look into that.

I'll give it a 7/10. Excited to see what you've got next!

10/10 looks great

Well, that name caught my eye :) I don't have Sauer installed on my laptop at the moment, but from looking at the gameplay video (great way to preview a map btw) it looks pretty good! I like the way you used the texture pack, reminding me a little how Redon used it on Lost/Recovery. You also have a lot of interesting layout elements, especial vertical ones.
Will try it when I get my pc fixed :)

Hey Pointblank,

I would like to give you a short comment about the gameplay on this map for competitive ctf games.

+ I really like the size. Its not too big and not too small.
+ my absolutley favorite part here are the 4 open windows on the top left and on the top right next to the base. they give you awesome flagrun(ectf only) and attacking possibilites. Also the other side of the windows are great. It would be the perfect place for the showdown and should be the heart of this map.
+ most of the ways bring you a bit closer to your target (the enemy base) which is very good and indispensable.

o There are these one way doors. I really hate them. :D You have no choice to change your way anymore after you passed them. I know lot of other fraggers also do not like them but maybe there are also a lot players who do? I don't know.
o the grid in front of the one way doors are also very frustrating for me because you can see your enemies but only fight them with luck (if one shot go through the monitoring grid). If you don't want to pass the one way door then you have to make a huuuuge detour.
o I'm also not a big fan of the middle tube. Yeah, it looks awesome but it's again a one way street with no possibilies to jump from the top to the buttom.
o I don't like too many corridor fights. Sadly the map has many of them. With stairs or higher platform you can bring variety and more fighting options/advantages.
o the teleports make the other way superfluous. They shorten the way a lot. I prefer if the teleports just give you some tactical options and do not limit smart ways.
o the camping spot in front of the flag is also wasted. Why should I camp there if there is no way into the base (or out of it)

- The gameplay is very retricted. Its nearly impossible to defend the base because there are no higher platforms or camping spots. The fights will be often on the same level. It is hardly possibility to make tactical flagruns, clever attacking routes or just holding the flag in the base.

The map reminds me a bit of mbt12.(which has the same problems btw :P)

I don't want to offend you or anything. But I know that you are not really into the scene of competitive ctf games. I know your editors qualities are awesome but if you make ctf maps you should ask fragger to help you with tactical aspects and ALWAYS find some players to test the map. :)

Time for me to check out...

The map feels on first attempt smooth. You can jump around easy, while not getting lost.
There are plenty of details around which are pleasant for the eye and the texturing is pretty good.

The lighting could be better; due the lighting-technique being used (a large radius light-entity in the middle on an area (but with a pretty high value on it's colour palette) and a small radius light-entity near the light-source (but with nearly the same values), some textures (like the lunaran for example) look flat.
Don't get me wrong, the technique itself has been performed good, nothing about that.
Just lower the values of the light-entities which have a large radius. Also, use as less as possible values which are perfectly the same (like 150 150 150 150). Why? That means the light-source emits perfectly white light. Such thing is never going to happen in reality, so it breaks the ambience that's being created.

You can hack yourself into the quadroom by changing mmodel mitaman/chainlinkcence to mapmodel 0 0 mitaman/chainlinkfence (there's no clip at all which bothers you). On top of the room of the Quad is no clip either, so doing that trick to other models of the map might give you the stamp as "legit"-wallhacker.

There's a lot of health within the map (38 to be exact). Same for green armour. Unless you never want people to get killed, I would suggest to lower such number down to half.

The map itself feels sometimes a bit weird for flagruns, as you move rather towards your own flag or towards a side of the map than actually forward. Perhaps a matter of taste, though.

There are way too many bases. Some are very close to each other which makes it even more an endless battle.

The map feels like there has been spend a lot of effort on. Next to the feeling the flow gives you, I like it.

Hey everyone, it's "Update Maps Friday". Just released a fresh update for meltdown here, gonna release one for surge too (a map i hadn't yet published)

Big new update, i'd say the map is now ready for an official release, assuming the layout is ok

hey, I saw your map made it into svn. I really like the map much more than it was before. I changed my rating from 6 to 9! Good job