Boxes and Barrels | Quadropolis

Kamadake | 2014-11-16 21:44

Boxes and Barrels

Hey guys. I'm trying to understand the scope of boxes and barrels when creating maps. I can easily place a box from the mapmodels available (default 103) and use that as an obstacle found in the middle of the map. But box entities don't seem to be sharing the same map model list, in fact I saw the box_demo map but all the barrels and boxes are blank.

at the moment I'm trying to see how to generate maps through script. utilising this mod that there is here: http://quadropolis.us/node/3584

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Mmeaninglez | 2014-11-16 21:57

Others will be able to say more about this probably, but boxes and barrels as entities only appear in singleplayer mode. Boxes and barrels move with other objects live elevators and also move when hit with damage. Boxes are indestructible, barrels explode when they receive enough damage.
I don't know the limitations of what models can be applied to boxes and barrels, I though it was any model by default.

Kamadake | 2014-11-16 22:03

For now I won't be using barrels, and if boxes are indestructible I might as well just stick to either the map model or lifting up a cube from the ground. The map model is nicer, textures when editing cube faces seems quite weird like how the texture is positioned on the cube and that you cannot scale it (maybe I want a box of grid size 8 rather than 16)

Thanks for your help!

Papriko | 2014-11-16 22:46

The big difference between ordinary mapmodels and boxes is that boxes actually can be moved. Try using /sp box_demo ingame. Then the ents will actually load and you can see what they can do. You'll see that the chairs move when shot or chainsaw'd.

Suicizer | 2014-11-16 23:48

Instead of asking this; perhaps you should read the docs carefully at first, as there's being stated everything you need to know about it.

http://sauerbraten.org/docs/editref.html#entity_types

Kamadake | 2014-11-18 13:16

I have read that. And my main problem was that I couldn't get to see their functionality firsthand in-game. The problem was that from the menu I did "/map box_demo" and I find myself in an empty map with nothing in there since that loads up coop mode immediately. I tried "/sp" as advised by Papriko and I saw all the ents load up in there.

So i'm guessing they don't work in the multiplayer modes? can't find that detail in the docs unless i'm skipping somewhere

Papriko | 2014-11-18 17:44

Nope, they do not. SP-only ents are: monsters, boxes, barrels, elevators, platforms. Mapmodels do work in multiplayer, but only to "look nice". Door and trigger functionalities of mapmodels are disabled too.

Suicizer | 2014-11-19 00:02

If you really want to have triggers and so in multiplayer; you should try Red Eclipse. However, that mod has a quite different approach of the editor (so you'll have to start learning nearly all over again).

Kamadake | 2015-03-23 22:36

Forgot to thank you guys for your help. Still working with Sauerbraten ^-^ Doing a dissertation that involves generating maps within the engine so I've been extremely busy with it XD

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