Foliage | Quadropolis

HeHeE | 2014-11-07 11:12

Foliage

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Blurb Cube 2 (Sauerbraten) Map names Foliage... Playable for Duel Modes

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Hi guys :) This map has made for duel... Havent used many teleports or jumpers like my previous map, just one teleport & one jumper. please give me your feedback, Thank U Guys... ;)

new textures: (These are cropped from my own works (:D Thank U Mighty HeHeE for these lovely textures :D) :P

greening01.jpg"
greening02.jpg"
greening03.jpg"
greening04.jpg"
resyeling.jpg"
redding.jpg"

Sounds:

Best Cardinal Bird Lazy.ogg Recorded by PsychoBird - License: Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported (http://soundbible.com/1475-Best-Cardinal-Bird-Lazy.html)
Eaglet_Bird_2.ogg Recorded by PsychoBird - License: Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported (http://soundbible.com/1487-Eaglet-Bird-2.html)
dove-Mike_Koenig-1208819046.ogg Recorded by Mike Koenig - License: Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported (http://soundbible.com/1850-Dove.html)
Falcon-Mark_Mattingly-169493032.ogg Recorded by Mark Mattingly - License: Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported (http://soundbible.com/1974-Falcon.html)
18_Waterfall_(00s000ms_01m02s581ms).ogg Artist/Composer : Gaia - License: Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported (https://archive.org/details/Sounds_of_Nature_Collection)

License info page: (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/)

(Thanks to Suicizer & skiingpenguins for their guidance)

Attention: (updated - 2014-11-09)

Map file Foliage.zip (2.31 MB)

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Comments

Suicizer | 2014-11-07 21:28

Nice map with even included custom content, but what's the source of that custom content? Are they made all by you from scratch? If so, what program did you use to make them?

This map currently has licensing issues, please fix them.

HeHeE | 2014-11-08 10:02

Hey Suicizer, sounds links are:

http://soundbible.com/suggest.php?q=bird&x=15&y=7 (3 bird sounds)
http://www.freesfx.co.uk/soundeffects/waterfalls/?p=2 (waterfall)

I changed the waterfall sound, coz i couldnt find the website...

licenses for bird sounds are Attribution 3.0 & Sampling Plus 1.0,
and license for the waterfall sound is here (it doesnt have problems i think): http://www.freesfx.co.uk/info/eula/

Is it enough or should I change something else too? :)

RaZgRiZ | 2014-11-08 14:39

He was referring to all the plant models.

Suicizer | 2014-11-08 16:34

After reading the last link you've provided, you are violating the license already for just the waterfall sound (the textures aren't even mentioned in your last comment).
So after reading, understanding and accepting the licenses you should do what's being told within the licenses and mention it on the node of the map (so right here).
Else replace the zip-file from the node with an empty . txt-file so the licenses aren't violated any longer of the custom content.

Quality | 2014-11-08 15:40

Nice map! Something new with those plants and so on ... Playing it is not too easy :D

HeHeE | 2014-11-08 19:29

hey Suicizer, i dont know where i did find the textures, i googled them and found them in google image search, and then resized and cropped them... and about waterfall, i registered(signed up) in this website, and then used this waterfall sound, but i think it says that there isnt any problem to use this sound... :) if u still think and know i did something wrong, ill change waterfall sound and textures... thanks

HeHeE | 2014-11-08 19:40

But Suicizer, how people use other artists works, change them a little and put them in youtube & then earn money from them? or maybe google pay those artists from those earnings? but when I use "piece" of free wallpapers in my work, Im violating the license?! ik we aren't talking about youtube, but just want to know how these licenses work... :D

Nyne | 2014-11-08 21:07

Suicizer | 2014-11-08 23:31

Never take other people's content as free to use, except if it's being stated that you can (like via licenses);

HeHeE | 2014-11-08 22:10

Nyne, Do U have permission from Sean Bean to put this pic here? or Peter Jackson? :D

Nyne | 2014-11-08 23:00

I created every pixel of that image with my own pen and paper. I swear!

skiingpenguins | 2014-11-09 04:17

There is such a thing as fair use, which is what a meme is. However, your map's textures (i googled them and found them in google image search, and then resized and cropped them) can not be considered fair use as you are specifying a Creative Commons license on this content, which is including the textures.

skiingpenguins | 2014-11-09 04:21

Your map file is capitalized. Don't capitalize filenames or directories for the cube 2 engine as it is far too easy to miss a capitalization and mess up.
You should calclight and genpvs for people, as that's NOT something the end user should be doing. This could end up with multiple map crc's.
Don't link to a page full of files without specifying which ones need to be downloaded; (3 bird sounds) is not specific at all.
Include all the files needed for your map in the .zip

As an artist myself, PLEASE do not rip other people's works off of Google and re-license them as you please.

HeHeE | 2014-11-09 07:18

I will change it with my photo (i mean my own own photo that taken with my own own camera). but i have a Q, when i change these tex, how should i prove to you that those textures are mine? and about sounds, i think, i just should change waterfall sound (i'll use xenon waterfall sound)... but about textures, its nonscense. i didnt steal others work...

and about license section in quadropolis, which should i choose, when i've use these sounds already in my work (i mean after fix issues)?

Suicizer | 2014-11-09 10:34

It simply can't be proved 100% accurate, but as most people like me have searched the net for free textures or are also in other communities which are using content; we know when something is fishy or when it isn't.
This most often relies on the content you're providing. By stating which programs have been used to create content and perhaps telling what steps you've used also creates more trust towards other people in the community.

Anyway, always give the original artist credit for their work, even if they have stated you don't have to. In the end, it gets appreciated because you show off respect to that artist.

HeHeE | 2014-11-09 12:47

Thanks Quality for your feedback,
& I believe U Nyne :D

HeHeE | 2014-11-09 12:46

Hi Suicizer, I fixed those issues, Did I do right or I missed something(s) again? & what should I choose in license section on quadropolis?

Suicizer | 2014-11-09 13:16

What license you should choose is determined by the license of the custom content. If you agree using the same license as the custom content; then just pick the license of the custom content. When there are multiplelicenses involved due having serveral sources of content, then various licenses should do the job; but still notify the license of your very own map.

Nooby | 2014-11-09 15:33

Also don't forget to note the license information in your .zip file itself. You can do this by creating a base/foliage.txt file (as sui already said, get rid of the caps). Write there at least your nickname (the author) and the complete(!) name of the license. Of course you can write everything you want to share about your map.
Also create in sounds/foliage/ and in foliage/ a license.txt (or alternatively a readme.txt) and write down the respective authors, the source of the content and the complete name of the license.

Also be careful with soundbible.com, that site shortens the license names which is just bad practice. "Attribution 3.0" isn't a license, "Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported" is one.

HeHeE | 2014-11-09 19:54

Thank U Nooby :)

Suicizer | 2014-11-10 07:55

As it seems like nearly everyrhing is fixed on the aspect of licensing, let's comment about the map.

The texturing seemed to fit the geometry, but using vscale that excessive isn't a great move as it makes you feel you're moving slower than usual (quite logical as the pixels have been doubled or even more than that). So I would advice not to use it in such scale (keep it up to twice their original size at max).

The map contains pretty nice details; although they are paperthin. This often calls for trouble with the physics as you sometimes can hack through it.

Can't say much about the lighting other than that it's really basic.

The flow of the map isn't that good as there is none. It's just a flat floor with some structures dropped on it that sometimes can be climbed (although not even that easily). There's for example a teleport within the cauldron but can't be accessed other than using trickjumps; that shouldn't be a main priority to navigate to another regular area (except if the map was designed for trickjumping but it seems not).
So add multiple layers of platforms connected smoothly to each other within the map. Take a look at shipwreck, authentic, bt_falls, c_capture, face-capture, etc.

As the flow is lacking that much, the gameplay is pretty much like ladder.

In overall; nice details, but it feels like a detail-zoo, so pretty much unplayable. It has an original theme though.

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