Should users post/ be encouraged to post Works-in-progress or otherwise not-their-best quality maps/work?

Mmeaninglez | 2014-03-23 13:31

There wasn't a general poll made this month, and this is a topic I've wanted to discuss for a while, so here goes:

Over time, Quadropolis has become focused on higher and higher quality maps and content as the game has become more improved and user skills have increased. Although I wasn't around at the start, looking back at the oldest maps on the sites shows a community with a bit more wild experimentation. A lot of early maps are a lot like "Hey I made a cool thing" rather than elaborate polished maps. I'm not saying that was necessarily better, but it was different.

Personally, as my mapping skill has increased, I've made quite a few maps that I finished, then moved on to another and never published, meaning to come back and fine-tune it a bit. Others I finished despite them having a couple of flaws inherent to the design that couldn't be removed, and thus could never be part of a release. I feel that it could have been some benefit to the community had I posted these maps, if only to inspire some small part of someone else's work later.

Are maps like this something other people want to see more of on Quadropolis?

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RaZgRiZ | 2014-03-23 15:26

Duh, that's the whole point of the website. Then again, there are exceptions to that rule. Some maps are pretty damn bad :P

Suicizer | 2014-03-23 20:19

Quadropolis has always been meant to share content and receive feedback from other people. New out-of-the box-thinking is always appreciated as long as it is represented acceptable.
It also doesn't matter if content lacks certain points while releasing so, as the actual result and the path towards that result matters. It's actually way more interesting to see a half finished project (which has some potention) turns out in something great than whenever a nearly finished project has been posted and actually doesn't need much more input from others. I've got to admit; it's nice to see such content but it misses the goal of Quadropolis.
Next to that, people should keep listening to input from others on their content. They won't get any better by ignoring comments and try it only on their way. A lot of people tried that already and most of them weren't really succesful on their projects.
Although it's very hard for most people; they should never actually say to a project "it's done!", move on and, never look back again. As you can even learn from succesful projects (although you learn even more from failed ones) and also improve it even more despite you might not see it while saying that. So don't call a project finished and start with another one, as that will help the least to grow in experience and knowledge.

Pyccna | 2014-03-23 22:28

It's a little hard to fine-tune your existing content when hardly anyone checks/gives feedback on content updates.
До свидания и Спасибо
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Suicizer | 2014-03-24 06:06

Some tips especially towards you (take it as a special threadment);
- Make sure there has been spend enough time and effort between releases of your content.
- Only start a project whenever your last one is really done.
- Listen to the comments that have been posted and also perform them. Sometimes even when you didn't like certain ideas in the first place. There might be more sense within them than you think.

Pyccna | 2014-03-24 18:34

That's great & all... but I repeat, how will you know if it's truly done if people seldom check your updates? Why bother to waste your time updating something when no one checks it?
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IgC | 2014-03-24 20:04

ever wondered about the Sound of Silence?
try to listen better.

in other words, we do check your things, but we're tired to reply.
it takes a lot of time, and, on your maps, usually, seems wasted.

you know it's Sad but True.. [yo, another good song :P ]

Pyccna | 2014-03-24 22:45

So us new-commers are expected to put out great content on the first try, otherwise people don't want to reply to it because we're wasting your time by reviewing content on a half-dead community website. How are we supposed to know what good content is if we don't get feedback for our updates, even if they are stupid updates? Unlike other's I'm not the god of Cube; I don't know what makes a good content & every time I've tried I get the sense of "nice try, too bad, try again", even not on my own content. How am we expected to build upon that? When I do enact on the suggestions there's... [drum roll] ...no feedback! It also doesn't help when SOME PEOPLE just vote "1" on almost everything without an explanation on why they chose that vote, & when they do comment it's something completely random & irrelevant or about something off-topic! The way I see it, newcommers are just expected to be on the same level as everyone else, if you guys want to attract more people to this community there's got to be some serious changes.
До свидания и Спасибо
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skiingpenguins | 2014-03-24 23:23

lol. calm your tits.

really, it wasn't like this before.
here recently people have gotten quite elitist.
i dislike it as much as you do.

have you thought of making stuff for red eclipse? its growing and has a gentler following.
for red eclipse its suggested you use the forums though, as this place is rather distasteful ^^

ah, don't we all miss the good old days. the days when games were fun, not stressful.

btw: Red Eclipse Forum (I would love some new CTF/Bomber Ball maps)

Suicizer | 2014-03-25 05:55

As already has been stated; new out-of-the-box thinking is getting appreciated, as long as it is presented acceptable. This means a map should contain certain points (like a more or less proper layout when it's designed for gameplay). Detailing, lighting and texturing is often something which comes on the second place (especially on the first maps). You eventually get proper layouts by simply playing the game (or a similar one, but that's not recommended).
You just messed up on your current and old nodes by ignoring certain points within comments while they've been repeated over and over again. Don't blame others for that.

P.S.
Perhaps we should change that "comment interaction" tag into something which the author can show off on what kind of point he actually wants the most feedback (like more feedback on layout, gameplay, clipping, lighting, detailing, geometry, texturing, etc).

IgC | 2014-03-26 20:26

man, I think you've recieved much more feedbacks than anyone else ever recieved in the whole community.

skiingpenguins | 2014-03-24 20:32

i think its alright to skip around between projects. i say this because sometimes one can get inspiration for a previous work by trying something new.

kddekadenz | 2014-03-26 11:15

I wholeheartedly agree with posting work-in-progress and experimental maps.
I like Sauerbraten because you can turn your crazy ideas for a setting into a model in no time - and that's what I doing - turning my idea into a rough model and moving on to the next idea. If I happen to really like a setting or want to tell a story I come back to the map again.
To sum up: Yes, yes, yes, I would like to see more crazy experimental maps here.

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