Collusion | Quadropolis

Snowy | 2012-03-11 15:06

Collusion

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Blurb A medium sized death match map

Screenshot Collusion

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Detailed description

A medium sized death match with an abstract industrial/urban theme with a slight Russian side. The map's layout has been made by 4t3one, main detail by Snowy, and help from some friends. Also includes a nice skybox RaZgRiZ found for us.
Also, the map is supposed to be grayscaled/colourless, so don't complain about that.
Open for review, I pretty much fixed all last remaining glitches/bugs, and the map should be playable without trouble by now.

[EDIT]
A lot of people said the map wasn't colorful enough, So I tried to give it some orange/yellow tints, also... The mapsize has been over 10mb, it's lower now, changed the lightprecision from 8 to 16, I'm not raising it any higher, because it horribly messes up the map.

Note!
I made a capture version (exactly the same, just added bases), available now! :D
(tested with bots, worked perfectly, they even reached the roof base.. several times!)

And here's a little album for the people who don't have access to the SVN...
(It's the new updated / lighting version, different lights than the thumbnail above)
enjoy :
http://imgur.com/2YYlD
http://imgur.com/ulWFH
http://imgur.com/SeJ1l
http://imgur.com/GMUIa
http://imgur.com/MLguN
http://imgur.com/sfD7j
http://imgur.com/EkFyP

final release :)

URL http://www.mediafire.com/?barfj232dvpze63

Rating

124

points

(13 votes)

Comments

unixfreak | 2012-03-11 16:56

Can't seem to find anything obvious wrongs about it, although it seems to take a rather long time to generate envmaps as the map is loading.

I think collusion.jpg could be taken from a better angle, i honestly think the top-left image of the one on your post looks x100 better, but that's just me.

Very awesome map!

RaZgRiZ | 2012-03-11 18:14

ABOUT TIME! :P

Although there were a few bits and pieces i'd claim as oversight. You can fully blame me for that. Sort parts i wanted were not done being skytextured. :P

SomeDude | 2012-03-11 20:28

Finnaly! I feel like I've been waiting for an official release of this map for ages now. 4t3one's original version was one of my favorite maps in all of Sauerbraten; I can't wait to check this version out! XD

Suicizer | 2012-03-11 21:05

Content
Just like the rest of the people which were at least a bit involved with this project, also I was waiting till it finally happened: the release!
The packaging seems to be excellent and the screenshot looks very promising, nice work.

Theme
The theme seems to be gray-scaled industrial. Not my type of theme but it has been performed good.

Texturing
The texturing, that's probably what I dislike about the map (just a matter of taste I guess).
2 Small little points;
- The floor2 texture which has been used as glass as windows in the buildings above the YA, could be some more transparent, as they almost look like bathroom-tiles and you can't look through it at all.
- There is a surface which still has the default texture, it's behind the building which stands behind the HB.
I'm actually not really font of using the floor2 texture for windows, as something like an up-scaled glass texture of trak5 could look better, in my opinion.

Geometry
The geometry seems to be fine.

Lighting
This is something which really makes the map attracting to play. It looks realistic and subtle.

Detailing
Also the detailing is very nice. It could have some more things to make it even more original, but ah well...

Clipping/Noclipping
The clipping/noclipping isn't bad, but could have done better to me. There are several areas which are just perfect to camp on; so they would kill the gameplay.

Flow
The flow is great also, nothing to say about that.

Gameplay
There isn't much to say about the gameplay, as it's fine. 1 Small point; what about adding bases? It's quiet a big map for just being a deathmatch map, while I'm pretty sure there would fit 5 bases in it.

Overall
It seems like a solid and nice looking map. Just a few points which could be improved. I really like it. So far 9/10 to me.

Snowy | 2012-03-11 21:37

hey suic, thanks for the feedback..
about the default texture behind the building, i dont really think u can see it, but yeah thanks for noticing anyway. i wanted to make bases, but i think the map is just a bit too small and open for capture :P
but yeah, i haven't tried yet..
oh and the windows, its floor2 on purpose, trust me.. that glass texture you're talking about, doesn't really fit.. the tile things are just.. it's the theme, don't feel like changing it at all.

ill fix the default texture anyway and give capture a try, prepare for a new download link..

off topic, the whole package is over 10MB, thats like 1.5% of sauerbraten.. xD

Suicizer | 2012-03-11 21:50

That's because lightprecision 8. What about putting it back to 32? I know, it would make the map have less sharp shadows, but the map shouldn't be 10Mb large. It would be 2,39Mb when lightprecision would be set to 32.

restcoser | 2012-03-12 01:41

I think we should have two versions of the game: One for users, that care about size, and one for those who don't and rather prefer sharper shadows. ;)

Windecker | 2012-03-12 04:50

Or just alter the code so you can recalc all your lightmaps yourself without a server flagging the map as 'Modified.'

Q009 | 2012-03-12 20:12

I CAN do that. Do anyone else want it as well?
Unless someone calls it cheating...

Suicizer | 2012-03-12 21:01

Depends what purpose Windecker has with those recalculated lightmaps?

Q009 | 2012-03-13 14:27

Kind of

Windecker | 2012-03-14 00:14

I see no reason why it would be cheating.

Altering light precision alters a map to be more visually appealing. There's a few maps with blocky shadows where I'd love to up the light precision. I don't have the slightest cares of file size.

If somebody feels that it's unfair, well, just compare that to people who disable every setting and drop all the detail for the sake of fluent game-play and visibility. It's no different, and the latter isn't considered cheating.

Suicizer | 2012-03-12 18:18

Well, if this map is meant for getting in the new release (hasn't been announced it is, but I doubt it isn't), then Eihrul probably will ensure a balance between file-size and looks.

Sauce | 2012-03-12 16:05

Absolutley amazing map! I like the glass texture better with alpha, but the tiles aren't that big of a deal. It is a solid, well done map, and I'm excited to see the future projects from this deadly duo. The theme may be over used, but it is amazing when done right, and I support it's use, when it comes to Snowy's work :D

MX | 2012-03-12 21:38

Very well done.
Grey theme is nice, although map may be need some pink or orange colors somewhere to make it look a bit more alive?
And where's that "slight russian side"? If you mean those silly writings, they are made of total mess. "Vehicle entranse" (it is spelled with mistake there), "Subway", "Conspiracy of Corporation"? Funny but useless.
Good think that doesn't affect layout, which is really nice.
Skybox and detailing are just great.
So, 9/10, almost excellent (light is a little messy (double shadows of /skylight? New sauerbraten has /sunlight feature instead)). Hope to see it fixed in the next release ;)

RaZgRiZ | 2012-03-12 23:12

The writings are mostly there to cover up the blank spots. I don't think anyone paid too much attention to see whether they were correct.

Glad you liked the skybox. Figured it would look pretty nice in this map, guess i was right. This avoc guy has some really cool stuff.. but it's a shame they don't have an actual _dn face :P

As for sunlight, we know. I'm pretty much the reason this map became SVN, although i wouldn't vouch for it, it's been long. Skylight is always quite messy, making more shadows than should be because of all the "origin points" it's trying to maintain. But there is sunlight. Can't do a proper map without it. =D

Snowy | 2012-03-13 10:29

typo >.<

Snowy | 2012-03-13 10:28

thanks for the feedback, i think i will work on the lights today..
a question about the silly writings..
what are the correct translations of 'entrance' and 'conspiracy corporation'?
because i can only read Cyrillic, cant understand Russian at all.. :\
could you please translate it so i can fix?

MX | 2012-03-13 12:03

Entrance is "Вход" for pedestrians, and "Въезд" for vehicles. But in that exact place you could write something like "Уровни 2-12" (Levels 2-12), since that door seems to be an elevator door.
Conspiracy Corporation is "Корпорация Заговоров" (literally: Corporation of Conspiracies).
Yours, anytime.

Snowy | 2012-03-13 12:08

alright thank you very much, i'll be fixing it now

FischKopF | 2012-03-15 11:57

Good map. You should release a version for red eclipse as well.

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