Kill Strike Rewards [REQUEST]

Cicciobello | 2012-02-25 12:43

Last summer I asked you how to make a kill strike message; now I'll ask for something more difficult: rewards for kill strikes. I thought about rewards for 9, 18 and 27 kill strikes

For 9 kill strikes you get 10 rocket launcher ammo (I actually only need to know the variable, I can't find it)

For 18 kill strikes (this is difficult to make) the mapmodel of the helicopter (that one used in the map justice) flyes trough the map and shots a lot of grenades in all directions (I'm not crazy, it's just a raid)

For 27 kill strikes (this is even more difficult than the previous and also more noob) the helicopter fly around the map for 40 seconds and shots with the chaingun to other players

If you have any idea of how to make the second or the third kill strike reward please tell me (but do not waste time posting that I'm a crazy noob). For the first just tell me how the RL's ammo variable is called (I'm getting mad to look for it!)

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skiingpenguins | 2012-02-25 13:18

just so that you know, usually it is called a "kill streak"

RaZgRiZ | 2012-02-25 13:32

You're a crazy noob. :D

Windecker | 2012-02-25 14:55

You will have to get the server to assign the ammunition, as it is not client sided.

For example, if you trick your client into thinking you have 20 bullets when the servers thinks you only have 10, the server will only register shots from those 10. The remaining ten may appear to shoot to the client, but the server either doesn't see it, or ignores it. I forget exactly how that works.

As to how you assign that ammunition, I have no clue. You will likely have to look at the source.

NextOne | 2012-02-25 16:59

Yeah.. Maybe we should change the name of sauerbraten to "Cod Black Ops" - same idea!

Suicizer | 2012-02-25 19:44

Sigh, why people keep thinking Sauerbraten should have input for games like Call of Duty, which are totally different on almost every aspect (except the fact they are both first person shooters)?

Sauerbraten has a quaddamage and a healthboost as powerup, be smart and try to control it while playing modes like ffa, teamplay, capture, hold, ctf or protect.

The helicopter won't be able to fly around in a match because:
- It's not having such animations (and I doubt you can code and rig models as well). If you would use it like in it's current state, it would look really crappy.
- I doubt it's very easy to let the helicopter fly randomly through maps (while not flying through any geometry). Even using the waypoints of bots probably won't make it easier, as you would need to change the whole score-system.

Good luck anyway...

If you managed to make it work, be sure your server isn't connected to Sauerbraten's master server.

P.S.
I'm just telling you this to spend your time on some more useful project instead of things like this.

Windecker | 2012-02-25 20:17

People seem to enjoy one experience and get it in there head that all others should be the same or similar. :P
I like games that are unique from one another, personally.

As for the helicopter... if an animation where made of it in a flying state, one could theoretically code it to follow a path which would be manually added into each map. Similar bots following to way-points, but less dynamic.
It would require a bit of effort to code it however, and then set it up said path in many maps.

I really don't see the point of it, myself, but it's not my job to tell people not to try.

Suicizer | 2012-02-25 20:47

So your actually telling I was doing your job =P?

Nothing personal, but when someone asks this kind of modifications I doubt he has any idea of how coding works, even less as I do.

For the modifications itself; just like I said, he needs to rig the model and it should have at least 6 animations (idle, forward, backward, right, left, attack) if you want to make it look "ok".

For Cicciobello, you haven't asked anything last summer...

Windecker | 2012-02-25 22:15

No no no. :P I was saying that it was -Not- my job. :P

For the helicopter in this scenario, you could get away with a single 'running' animation, as long as you can make it follow a path accordingly, and have that path tell it to tilt and such. The only dynamics on it you really need are rotating blades, which could actually be replaced with a simple rotating texture. All the same, it would be good to have at least six, as you said.

Suicizer | 2012-02-25 22:19

How do you explain the bullets or grenades which would come from the helicopter then?

RaZgRiZ | 2012-02-25 23:08

It is raining bombs! Hallelujah it is raining bombs! Aw, yea yea yea!

I'm probably the only one thinking that this is yet another black ops multiplayer ripoff.

unixfreak | 2012-02-26 01:20

That could all be done with the platform entity (assuming you wanted the model to fly from point A to B only), should be easy enough to get something like that working with the helicopter mapmodel from the map 'justice'. Although multiplayer matches = different story.

If anyone's serious about trying to make a modded client/server to have these kinds of games i'd say to look at the code for multiplayer doors in red eclipse, i would guess you could modify it lightly to allow multiplayer platforms.

Sub Zero | 2012-03-07 06:38

in reference to the animations, with the tilting, just change the maxroll when you are in the heli.

Cicciobello | 2012-02-28 14:48

well thanks for the time you spent to answer me, I think this mad discussion can be closed. However I'll go on with this project, and maybe in a few months you will see that it's raining bombs :P

Sub Zero | 2012-03-07 06:47

actually, its likely we won't. its a combo of server and client sided work, so the server sided work (depending on what it is) might be seen, but the client sided work we wouldn't. in the end this would be a full mod requiring both a new client/server executable's and texture/model mod/additions, plus getting lucky if you can make the heli follow the bot paths, the only issue with that is, certain maps the waypoints go off the edge on purpose, you'll have to think real hard how to fix that issue.

tbh, i just simplified it. but in all reality, if you managed to attempt this, i cannot tell you how many hours you would be looking at a screen trying to make all this happen.

Monkie | 2012-02-29 05:46

Dude, this isn't COD ...
Sauerbraten is fun because it doesn't have kill streaks.. (Or kill strikes, LOL)
Besides, it would ruin the fun of Sauer because those who are cheaters can easily get that many kills and use their killstreak, causing all other players to die constantly. That ruins the fun for everyone.
In my opinion, if any changes are going to be made to Sauer, we need 3-5 Global Moderators for the game. Just so they can ban / kick those cheaters out there who are ruining the fun for everyone else.
Thanks for your time!
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Monkie

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