I rarely comment on other's works, but this is impressive; you know: I love big maps ;)
"and i would like to optimize it, could someone advice me about how to do it?"
Well, if I may suggest:

Nice job.
Greetings.
P.S.: don't pay too much attention to guys that try to correct your english, they will never catch the awesomeness of our "maccheroni english" ;)

Seems like a pretty nice map.

Can I ask first what code did you used to have those other screenshots added into the node?

The theming seems to be original. I like it has some kind of arabian theming on it, while it actually isn't.

The texturing isn't bad, but could be better.
The textureset you've used aren't that great. Especially the trak5 textures aren't really fitting the others at all. Only the "base1c" texture of trak5 is fitting (because of the vcolor you used. Impressive gold look ^^!).
There could be some more textured used, like Meister mentioned, for the floor and trimmings (wich are also a part of the detailing!).

The geometry is still pretty rough (like the texturing is on some spots).
At some areas, you've managed to create wonderfull structures, but on other parts of the map, it's just a big blocky cave. Try to improve those areas by adding more things wich fits the theme.
The wtr of the map is insame high to me. 186k of wtr for such map can't be called efficient mapping. I'm pretty sure if you wouldn't do anything about it and continue improving it's geometry, texturing, detailing and lighting, the map ends up with a wtr of something between 200k and 250k. That can't be called playable. So really try to lower the wtr.

The lighting isn't like you said, finished.
After all, to me it's not that bad as it looks and needs less improvement than the other points.
It still has some lighting errors in it, tough.

The detailing isn't bad, but not that great either.
A lot of structures has been copied and pasted.
Also, the ladders/stairs to higher platforms could be improved, because they are really a no-go in a time like this. If we still were playing on the assassin-edition I wouldn't mind, but come on, you can do better.

The clipping/noclipping is lacking pretty much.
A good thing is that you've ceiled the hole map so players can't get out of the map.
An issue is that you haven't clipped those big "tubes" in the middle of the map. Players could use them very easily to navigate trough the map, so make it more simple for them.

The flow isn't bad, but could be way better.
My head bumps to some large iron arrow when jumping on those huge tubes in the middle of the map. Be sure to fix that by noclipping it (or removing).
You have some nice tricks in it, but aren't set up logical. Be sure to add a reason for them, instead of just adding them and make sure they aren't overriding the primairy path (as example, reward a player by taking a "tricky" path for a pickup (like health) or a faster way to a certain area, but be sure that the main path also has some kind of reward (like ammo).
Be sure paths aren't pointing to a certain area first, but actually are leading to a very different area, far from the other one. As example, the outside "caves" are pointing that there is another way to the flag by taking those stairs. But actually, they are going to the center. This could be pretty frustrating and isn't creating a nice flow.

The gameplay could be better.
The ammount of pickups is way too small for such big map. Be sure to add more of them.
The ammount of players your noting is a bit too small for such map, isn't it? I'm pretty sure an 9 vs 9 match would do fine on here, maybe even a 10 vs 10 match...
Also, why did you marked every pickup by some odd looking circle with a cross inside it? It is only wtr consuming and not even that effective at all. If you want to mark pickups, use a mapmodel instead or a low wtr-consuming way, like a texture.
It's not a great idea to add pickups (like those riflerounds) on places wich are hard to reach. In this case, why would a player even bother to get those riflerounds on the large tubes if they can pick them on the lower floors as well? Make sure it really is worth to do such risk-taking jumps.
Maybe you also need to review the balance of the pickups, since there are 12 rockets, 16 riflerounds, 26 shells (!), only 10 bullets and only 10 grenades. This map seems to scream for more bullets and grenades on certain areas like those outside paths.
A good thing is that you've made sure the flags aren't facing each other. So you really need to travel trough the map instead of fragging people all across them map.

Overall, the map still lacks pretty much and is far from done. I'll give it a 5/10 for now.

P.S.
How did you managed to get the file-size 4,5mb 0.0? What about trying to lower it by setting the lightdetail to 64?

You know I love your maps and this one is absolutely amazing. But I got some problems with it, which could be fixed :

-It´s pretty hard to score because you always have to pass the middle of the map (the quaddamage-point).
This place is very open and that´s why you mostly die here and so you rarely get the flag.
(We can also watch this point as a tactical achievement because you have to plan your way correctly)
So this is a good or a bad point I want to mention

-There aren´t enough ways up imho

-The teleports are pretty funny but they made me crazy :D

-Some more textures could be used (but this is your own style and it definitely looks great that way !)

Oh Dude ! You always make it ! You always create a unique style (like Meister) and mostly add a good layout/gameplay. This time the layout could be improved, but this map is definitely your best so far.
You get a 8/10 from me !

Greetings, My friend !

After attempting to lower the wtr, just as an experiment, I managed to get the map under the 150k of wtr, by removing/ texturing the geometry with skytexture of the structures outside the map, wich can't be seen from any direction on the field. Also replaced some strips of geometry with the base1c texture on it, for bigger strips, wich leaded to an even lower wtr.
I'm sure there are enough options to make this map playable...

I have stop doing geometry (and a bit texuring) cause the wtr number; this way in going to get 300k laggy map. I would like to understood how to work before ending the map. So some spots are more unfinished than others. and pobrably i have to found some nicer texure. I love the trak5 ones, i don't like the others; the main texure... there is no way to founds one.
If you ask me i don't know what is the theme, but you will need some skill to score here, what mode you play.
This map is made for 4vs4 ctf. You can play 3vs3 insta here, but it will result big, like sacrifice. I think ammo are enought for 4vs4 ctf. There are a lots of shells, but nobody will really cares about it. More than enogth rokets and riflerounds, they looks like the basic weapons of the game, and players simply need them. Not so much bullets, but easy to reach, i can add some grenades, but items placement could be improved, as it is now... is a bit basic.

This engine was made to make me mad at lighting, i have understood this. I will try to fix the errors. For the structures, i haven't found some ladders better than this one, i hope to get a better idea, but this one seems to works for the layout.

@Meister:
Thanks. I will try what are you suggestings explecially:

fill the surrounding/hidden spaces surrounding the maps with transparent cubes to lower world triangles
Ok is an hard work an problably i have to do it.

try to set skylight to 160 128 64
It looks better...

@Suicizer

what code did you used to have those other screenshots added into the node?
html tags img, you have to uploads image to an host before proceed.

My head bumps to some large iron arrow when jumping on those huge tubes in the middle of the map.
The arrows was a last time addons. I have add it basically to make the tubes way a bit harder to do. For the same reason i choose to not clips the tubes, this way they are slippery, and "tricks" are harder and more satisfacitoning.

How did you managed to get the file-size 4,5mb
At lightprecision 32 it was 9.5mb i lowered it to 64 to make the file size reasonable with standards. I prefer how it looks at 32. Also if 96 is near...

@Mysterious
Thanks, I will try to finish one... one day :D

It´s pretty hard to score because you always have to pass the middle of the map
I can talk some hours about it. This is the foundaments of the layout, you can say this is a camper map, yes, you are in the truth. But I have founds that maps were you have a forced center way, works better (for may gameplay) than some others open maps. I would like to concentrate on the 8 layout on this map ((and dcw4) but forge like maps are ready to be done). So is hard to score as hard can be do on face_capture, or tejen. Is not the best layout, is not the funner, but i think (and hope) its a working one.
At the last is a choose. Some times we choose to make a kind of map, some times another.

The teleports are pretty funny but they made me crazy
Teleports can be removed. Nothings really change. I can't love it. A wtr waste :D
I hope to found a solution that does not involves lots of pulseglow and particles.

but this map is definitely your best so far
This is more hardcore than others one.

@All the reades
You have to understood my english sucks. And it sounds like a maccheroni western XD

I have forgot to thanks lots of people wich suggested me from the first layout to this post, and make it possible:
At6, for some details, and decors on the map.
Zooka, for some layouts inprovements.
All the ICC clan, for suggestion and testing the layout.
All the ICC clan, for supporting.
All the ICC clan, for supporting again.
The one wich made the basic shape of the couple... you are great.

Ok, is time to go bed... i will finish explain and i will unpdate the map next days, continue to criticize and suggesting, vote it, donwload it, and play the map... and remenber, insta sucks XD

"Maccheroni western! xDDDDDDD

Well, like I said about the middle "knot" : We can also see this as a tactical achievement !
And btw : Your layout works pretty well so far

Edit : Oh , I found a clipping/noclipping mistake :

- Pls clip the pipes . I always get down from them because they are kind of slippery :D

Well, rather than making a super complex post detailing everything, I will keep mine simple.

I like the style.
I do not like the stairs,
I do not like where you have one pipe atop the other ( as a barrier ) and how they shoot the player at the ground when touched, I don't understand why or how that happens, but those two at least should be clipped up to the halfway point of the top pipe ( if you want to keep the top one slippery, but still want a barrier )

You can lower the file size a ton by applying skytexture to all the stuff outside the map that the player cannot see. LIghtmaps are calculated in areas covered in the skytex and thus will reduce filesize by having less lightmaps, or smaller lightmaps.

Overall, nice map, original style.

here is my critic:
The bad:

-The light is bored, just white everywhere and it doesnt fit with the beautiful skybox, the skybox is prety colored and the map is just white.
-The map itself is dull, isnt really interesting.
-The layout is okay but the problem here is the gameplay, is a bit narrow in some parts and is a bit dificult to run around the map without crushing in to the wall, pillar or an inecesary detail, there are parts of the layout that nobody is going to go there also there is a tube that block the way.
-the background aparently is fine, but if you observate its just copy and paste, spam, its suffocating ergo its monotonous, boring.
-There are weapons that are too close togethere, like 4 in just a small corridor.
- there are places too dark in the map.

The good:

-The textures are fine and pretty original with respect with the other maps in sauer.
-the layout is okay.
-the background looks aparently fine, but its too spam, try to improve it.
-the lights are okay, just try to improve it.

well, i dont have a lot of good opinions of your map, i think its a great theme, but it have to be improve more.
for me its delightful 4/10
if you improve all that things it can be a 7 or 8
greetings.

Ok, i have failed at simplyfy the map, now is 200k :D
I haven't removed the particles, but add some to ensure also nice macine can exspect some lag XD - not seriusly i need an excluse for some clip/death. I haven't texured the map more, or removed the cubes for ammo. I don't know if this fixes can greatly improve performances, they will be consider in a future update. I haven't clip the pipes, i like how they are, you need a bit of train to maximize the speed and stability i like the fact that some tricks, can be hard to do. What i have done in randoms way is:

• The under spikes are half size the original
• Better clip in the upper base
• New skylight, and relatives ones...
• Some details finished
• Removed some healt from the centrer and added an MG and GR
• Removed the stairs near the jump - the jumps works enought
• Removed the teleport holes, i wasn't happy with them. I wasn't happy of the insta teleport too...
  
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Hi Drekow!
To me this map looks great. I would not know how to improve if not on texturing. The detailing is far from what I could do.
And as some here know, I am always asking if you would like to offer this map to maplounge. (need info on maplounge?: Look on www.nooblounge.net)
Would be great if you give permission to usage. And also all other mappers are welcome to maplounge.
Greetings and Cu nothing (tried to change my name from 2vok to nothing but didnt work since now).

I have done some texturing work and minor layout fixes, from now the map is SVN only.

The map has been improved, but it's not like you've put some real effort in it.

Texturing
This definitely is improved, but there pretty much textures which aren't really fitting each other (like the "mm-grate_old" texture of mitaman next to the "base34_d" texture of gibbie). Be sure to stick to a few texture-sets, instead of picking just 1 of each and hope they fit.
You could have saved a lot of wtr by putting the skytexture on surfaces outside the map.

Geometry
The geometry could be improved by using less "ribs" into structures. on every rib, you cut off the cubes which could be calculated as 1 surface, instead of 3. That would be the case if it was just a surface which has 1 primary texture, while a secondary splits the primary texture. In this case, the ribs are splitting the walls up into 5 different surfaces (2 on each side of the rib, the rib itself and the sides of the rib).

Lighting
The lighting, looks pretty bad. There are light-sources, but they aren't creating a nice atmosphere. They emit light, but just too much or too less and sometimes even with a very odd colour.

Detailing
There have been added more details, but it definitely doesn't makes me scream "WOW". The overused star-shaped flag-trim (as it you've used it in 3 maps now) isn't really inviting me to pick up that flag, which also counts for any other trim positioned under pickups. If you really want to mark pickups, flags, playerstarts, etc, be sure to do make it look really good.

Clipping/noclipping
This could be done way better also. It's really unnecessary to add such big space between the main floor and the clipping ceiling. Keep it like on the height of point of the structure were "particles 0 412 89" are appearing on, near the HB and 2 cartridges.

Flow
The flow has slightly been increased, but it still isn't great at all. There isn't any logical path to each flag actually, as you first take the stairs, then you're being forced to take some jumppads which are launching you vertical to the next platform. This really kills the flow actually.
There are way more of those examples, but that's just one of the easiest and the most obvious.

Gameplay
It's just the same as before, not great. Keep in mind the flow has really much influence in the gameplay, don't underestimate that.

Overall, the map still looks like it could take 20 updates before it's actually worth being played. I'll rate it 1/10 higher just for the effort, but it actually isn't deserving it.
Talking about effort, I've checked out 2 maps which you've updated lately and both are just poor in quality on almost all aspects. Come on man, I know you can do better!

I'll continue soon with this, stay tight!