The only problem I see with this map is that the leaves that are supposed to be falling look more like purple sparks or purple rain instead of leaves.

"However I did add a ladder so that the could be accessed."

what could be accessed?

im sorry dont see the point:

ok so i see that u copy and pasted thousands of unrealistic looking leaves on the ground... whats the bloody point.

First off if you want a benchmark test cube id suggest running more taxing operations. Your map size is smaller than:
urban_c
campo
canyon

and of course my cathedral map.

Point being that this honestly is not a tech demo of cube rather just a pain in the @$$ to light map, and really has no detail to it, save many many many petals which still does not add up to much real wtr!

chasester

I'll give you the same advice as I do on snow_island:
USE MAPMODELS!
They aren't invented for nothing! Mapmodels exist because they can create the same detail on a WAY MORE EFFICIENT WAY!

It's not that hard to make mapmodels of it. Here are the steps to do so.
1. Select the structure wich you want to get writen as .obj-file.
2. Copy it.
3. Press "newmap"
. Delete all other geometry exept the scruture you would like to keep.
5. Press "/writeobj".
6. Quit Sauerbraten or just go "outgame".
7. Make a folder (inside the "models" folder!) where you put the "name_of_model.mtl" and "name_of_model.obj" in.
8. Copy (or cut) the "name_of_model.mtl" and "name_of_model.obj" wich are written right in the main "Sauerbraten" folder.
9. Paste the "name_of_model.mtl" and "name_of_model.obj" into the folder wich you made at step 6.
10. Make the required "object configuration file" (obj.cfg) (for the commands search in the documents on "www.sauerbraten.org" or observe and experiment wich existing mapmodels).
11. Start up Sauerbraten again or just get ingame.
12. Press "mapmodel 0 0 0 "name_of_directory/name_of_newmodel"
13. Press "/newent mapmodel 170".

The only problem that can cause (wich I sometimes have) is that it won't load the assigned textures.

Damn, I'm even wondering why I've been waiting for 15 minutes (while I also got 2 core, but putted lightdetail on 128 instead of 64) only to see some lanterns, benches, bridges, leaves and bins spammed on some islands? The map contains out of 1016k of wtr, not 918k and isn't calculated yet after starting up the first time (that's why I had to wait for 15 minutes till it really started to look like something -.-).

Hope that helped...

Now about the map,
It seems to be more a trend to see how much little cubes you can spam till the engine crashes. Cube Engine 2 isn't designed to deal with a high ammount of very small cubes. To solve this problem, we turn back to mapmodels (again)...
The lighting and texturing are great, but the detail isn't since it's actually all the same. All benches, stairs, lanterns (wich is way too overspammed!) litterbins, etc are identical wich actually breaks the hole atmosphere (while the lighting is actually just perfect). It's like if your in some perfect world, where nothing is getting harmed, nothing is getting used, it's been there already for hunderds of years untouched, while it still has been created with a reason somehow.
In other words, you've been trying to create a 3D painting, while you tried to get it so perfect, that the realism is destroyed just because of that :P.
It's like trying to create the perfect balanced gameplay map. It is just so balanced that it gets boring and everything would be mirrored, else it couldn't be perfectly balanced.

Anyways, nice try but no thanks to me...

7/10 tough...

P.S.
When your on 1 of the small islands and you look to another island (while running to it), suddenly the tree on that other island pops out the air xP.

Nice solution to "unbug" the water on the "edge" of the map ;).

The leaves can also be created by making them as a mapmodel wich is "leave-themed" textured and carries an alpha-channel... I think it would even look better when you would create such thing.

Another idea 0.0!
What about making a "grass-texture" wich contains leaves and assign it to the textures wich are now under the geometrical leaves?
It's a very simple (even tough not that great looking :S) solution!

Siding with Sui on this one.. The leaves here aren't even that nice, and they account for a HUGE portion of the map's wtr. Mapmodelling them just makes sense. While you're at it, you could even change the texture on them so they look like leaves. Initially I thought they were sharp pebbles.

There's a lot of detail in this map otherwise, but since most (actually all) of it is repeated in some form this is much less a map than a series of lamps and benches. This only 'pushes' the cube engine because of scale - sure, you can copy anything enough and it will be heavy on processing. That doesn't make it ambitious.

If you're concerned about wtr, I would caution you to start building within the grid - for example, after removing the detailed islands, I found that about 90k of triangles are from the water-covered ground alone. By raising the ground up a bit you could save yourself quite a bit. Same goes for the picnic tables. The flat planks of wood could be rendered more efficiently if raised - of course, this depends on you making mapmodel leaves.

Hell, I'd even push for mapmodel lamps, etc. in this case because they're sufficiently detailed to be taken seriously as models (with proper texturing of course). But then, this would be even less of an ambitious map.

Some good details here but it runs wayy to slow for anyone to use (let alone light - I tried for a minute and it didn't get past 1%) and the details repeat so often, it brings to question: why didn't you just release a vamp-style gallery map of random things you've made?

It's nice-looking, but pretty uninteresting. Definitely way too many lamps and wastebaskets.

Visually:

• The map looks like it should be somewhat minimalist or sparse, but the lamps and wastebaskets ruin it. (You have at least twice as many lamps as you need.) I do like the blowing-leaf effect very much. It's too bad the particles don't look more like leaves.
• The leaves on the ground, while a nice touch, are way too common and don't look like leaves (as Kreten said). You could do just as well with a leaf layer texture on the ground (like the flowers on grass in Nieb's recent "Garden of Wisdom" map). Or, if that's too flat for you, a four-triangle mapmodel with a real leaf texture would work.
• I don't know if Justice edition has the fogdome, but a fogdome really helps the atmosphere. As it is, the fog as a reddish color but the skybox as a yellow really clash. (Set fogdomecolor to match the fog, then fogdome to -0.03, and fogdomemax to 1.0. Probably tweak the watercolor too. And maybe drop waterfog to 60.)
• One texture complaint: at the base of the trees, I have no idea what that's supposed to be. Some dark soil (or even mulch!) would make those trees so much happier.
• Maybe a crow mapmodel or two would also help the atmosphere. There's birdsong, but no birds! :P

For the technicals:

• You should definitely remip, at least, before releasing! I also highly recommend you take Kreten's advice about mapping on the grid. (You should probably generate lightmaps too, even though "calclight -1" increases the size of the OGZ from 1.2 to 9.3 MB--took about 12 minutes to calculate here.)
• You could probably reduce the LOD on the lamps, too, at least on the base. Just bumping it up a gridpower would probably save some triangles while not reducing quality too much. (Also on the lamps: skip the alpha material. It hardly adds anything.)
• And on the islands, you could certainly reduce the number of lights used. People won't be looking as closely at those.
• Additonally, it might improve performance to texture all the insides of the wall-curves with skytexture (and set "/skytexture 0", of course).
• Another thing about the walls: the inside corners on the curved part don't quite match up. (I suspect you tried to fix it and couldn't, so don't worry about it in that case.)

Also, try "/entfind mapmodel * 127; entproperty 1 1". That'll change all the trees so you can see where they were. The reason for this: there's a teeny-tiny geometry triangle hiding near one of the trees (the "plaza" with benches and eight trees, between the two nearest the "dock"). (Use "/entfind mapmodel * 128; entproperty 1 -1" to change it back.)
And speaking of which: look a little more closely at the tops of those wall things at the "dock". Someone's been carelessly copy-pasting. ;)

All in all, I reiterate my "nice-looking, but uninteresting". Potential starred content, but still needs work.

i dont know if this has been said already but YOU NEED TO REMIP BEFORE RELEASING! It reduced by wtr down by 900 just from that

If licenses aren't get broken, you could take the leaves wich are on the skin of that purple tree and add an alpha channel to the rest of the skin, so only leaves are sightable.
When you would make a "waving" model, it could look like if the leaves are really floating away (especially when you would use the same script wich is getting used on the rocketlauncherhudgun from the ctf- and assasin edition).
Of course it's not necessary when you would blend or just put them (like using setshader decalworld or just really putting them on the texture using gimp or photoshop) on the floor's textures.

I love it 10\10

this few screenshots HQ uploaded using Cloud.

1- http://cl.ly/51N9

2- http://cl.ly/50T7

3- http://cl.ly/51Yx

4- http://cl.ly/516W

5- http://cl.ly/51pG

PS: It's killing fps, normal i get about 900-700 fps but in this map i get only 30-40 with shader on.