You can rifle jump your way out quite quickly and fluidly, but generally just use it as an entrance, and escape via the jumppad.

Very nice that you almost want to marry nieb (just kidding :P), but notice that not only nieb has been working on this map. Respect those other creaters too...

i think the fact that we were mentioned is enough, we didn't do more than throw in some ideas and do a few tweaks. >_>

Of all the people here, someone like you should expect that nieb likes simplicity. Maybe a bit too much, i'll have to agree on that part. There were more details here and there, dents on the walls and the such, but he cleared them out. WTR wouldn't lower anymore anyway since the geometry is "broken" already by the different textures used on the dents. I don't see much reason to this course of action, they did make the environment feel a bit more alive. :\

As for the starred content, hey, it's nieb you're talking about, he stars his own content and has access to the svn, he doesn't need the community's seal of approval. :3

"As for the starred content, hey, it's nieb you're talking about, he stars his own content and has access to the svn, he doesn't need the community's seal of approval. :3"
Noticed. I am far from bringing into question nieb's skills of course, but still to "star" his own content looks a bit farcical. However, sorry but I can't get the point yet: since "he doesn't need community approval" why he publish stuff on QP then? Vanity?

probably because its a long way since the release for people to test your content. he often updates his maps on the svn, so feedback is needed.

He didn't star it. I starred it.

And if you don't feel this is worthy of being starred, submit something better so I have that to star instead. :)

SheeEttin, submitting "something better so I have that to star instead" it's almost impossible for a very simple reason: beauty is in the eye of the beholder. And however I am pretty sure you would star this map regardless of what people submit, it's understandable, no problem at all. And Nieb getting "starred" is easily predictable, that's not the point, I throw doubt about timing: this map has been promoted almost at once, without feedbacks, and released on svn few hours later, that just looked suspiciously hasty. But well, at least is good to know that people do not "star" their own maps.
Ok, enough talking on this matter, greetings ;)

Kiss his @$$ already:

Honestly great map, as stated:

• Simple layout
• Nice use of bumpmap textures to create more detail
• Light simple lighting
• Small fine point detailing to add to map (mostly present in the bushes)
• Crisp look, fine lines and harsh lighting
• Emerson,(one of nieb finer traits) you dont feel like its an island in the sky.

Now all these are only overshadowed by some of the map not so grand features

• Lack of any detail. Beyond of bushes the map has no geo detailing, or really texture variance
• Layout of a completely symmetrical map both horizontally and vertically gives a repetitive nature and a dryness to the map
• 2-foot fence? Way too short you feel like you jump off the map playing area and you die for no reason
• Lack of non-cube, the map has far too few curves circles spheres, it very plain detail wise
• (I HAD TROUBLE LOADING THE ONE AND ONLY MAPMODEL)

Overall better than most,
Not as good as some!
chasester

There is more than one model.

No clue what's up with the hanging, I used to experience it on my old system. I think it has to do with the texture, not the model itself.
I'd load a map with a model with 30,000 polys, and the game would hang the first time I looked at it. This would never happen if I loaded it without a texture.

"Nice use of bumpmap textures to create more detail"

Really, Check the cfg of the map. There are NO textures with bumpmap textures in it. Please check the configuration file of a map before saying things like that...

P.S.
I hope you know there have been used 2 kinds of mapmodels instead of 1. Again, check the cfg-file of a map before saying things like that...

ok sorry i was not anal enough to go in and check to see if he actually used bumpmaping in the textures... the ideas the same tho .. he used textures ** on many of the buildings to create details that where not due to geometry.

chasester

^^^^ troll

It could have been positioned next to a bacon factory with a large Zeppelin overhead, but I imagine that would have ruined the mood of the map. :P