snowisland v1.2 | Quadropolis

SirEsahc | 2011-01-02 03:54

snowisland v1.2

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150

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(17 votes)

Blurb snow + island = snowisland

Screenshot snowisland v1.2

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Detailed description

Continuing my post where I left off from http://cubeengine.com/forum.php4?action=display_thread&thread_id=2410

snowisland v1.2 (1600x1200)
http://imageshack.us/m/220/8980/snowislandv12.jpg

Note:
Additonal Enhancements (Optional)
- /bloom 0.1 (default: 0.0) //This gives the map a nice soft glow.
- /maxparticledistance 4096 (default: 1024) //To be able to see the storm-like particles.

How to climb a ladder? (Ladders do work, just in a diffrent way.)
- Run into the ladder, jump, then continue jumping and/or running.

Map file snowisland.zip (6.34 MB)

Rating

150

points

(17 votes)

Comments

Suicizer | 2011-01-02 13:03

Even tough the buildings contain nice detail, I'm against the fact that the map has used another map as base that's in several releases of sauerbraten (from spring edition till the current justice edition).
Further, maybe the geometry of those details are nice, but don't forget, texturing those details is a pain in the ass...

RaZgRiZ | 2011-01-02 14:15

WHATEVER! The canyon map was intended to be used as a template for other mappers if needed, get over it. ;)

Windecker | 2011-01-02 15:29

This is very nice, I really hope to see future releases. :}

I think it could do with a lower /ambient level, to give it some more contrast. ( I tried ambient 5 5 5 when I was running about )
and I think your dock's and bridges could use some pilings and struts under them.

Great work so far!

Chasester_aka_you | 2011-01-04 00:15

hey ive used the canoyon map many times for movie projects i had... add a few tree models change the texutre to snow and boom you have a nice forest ;)

chasester

SirEsahc | 2011-01-24 20:34

The 4th release is now out.

I know when I did the 3rd release, everything was a complete mess. The first and foremost, the messiness of my thread was killing me. So as you can tell, I kept it very simple, straight, and to the point. As far as a detailed list goes, I can't go about this easily as I tend to complicate things for some odd reason. I could provide more screenshots if necessary. Or I might start to give a brief summary of what i've done. It depends on what I want to do. So yeah, enjoy this release as there are many more to come. :)

@Suicizer: I'm sorry you do no like the layout i've used. I had no intentions of doing so when I first started this map. I'm glad you said something about this because I have been working on 2 new layouts since first release. I also had a 3rd but I rather not complicate things as it is. As for the texturing, I have a mechanisim for my creations that will allow me to texture quickly and easily. For the most part, i'm saving the best for last. :)

1st layout: http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/3215/layout1i.jpg
2nd layout: http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/6853/layout2j.jpg

@Windecker: The ambient command helped blend the map in. But I think an ambient of 5, 5, 5 is too dark at the moment. As you can tell i'm not very good with lighting so every bit helps. Thanks.

SirEsahc | 2011-01-24 20:39

^^Sorry edit.
:(

Hello people of Quadropolis. SirEsahc bringing you a new release with a new layout. You guys would not belive how many layouts I have gone through before I got this one as perfect as possible. As you can tell right off the bat the map is still very very new at this point (again). Not all of the buildings have been transfered over as of yet. I still need to find a good location for them. Umm what else... Oh yeah I finally got around to adding more content to that 1 building that was completely empty. Now its pretty darn full (smileyface). But yeah hopefully you guys like the new layout I have made. Enjoy!

Calinou | 2011-01-25 16:37

Wow, gets nicer. 9/10

Chasester_aka_you | 2011-01-25 19:48

@calinou do you ever rate below an 9/10

@node
I think that many people concerns have been noted but i will elaborate on my view (which more in-likely will include some things said):

This map is incorrectly packaged look at the packaging guild on correct packing for all node on quad.
Texturing:
- There is only 2 textures used on this map even in the house were more textures should be used.
- Texture blending looks very nice on the sides of the water.
- it seems impractical that there is snow everywhere but no ice? You could fix this by adding a sheet of ice (aka a flat plane of land slightly below the water so that there is a little water on top of the ice, to give the effect that the river (or lake has not complete froze yet.
Lighting:
- Dont mess with lighterror or lightpersision unless you know why you are doing it!!
- Set ambient to 60 70 100
- Add a global ambient light at the top of your map with 0 radius and 60 60 70
- Play with shadowmapambient to reduce the amount of shadows showing Note: that you have to light calc before you see the affect of this variable.
  Note: Shadowmapambient is on the same scale as ambient 255 255 255 is no shadow 0 0 0 is black shadow, RGB color mode.
Details:
- The house of course needs more texturing details.
- The map its self is a little boring, it could use more buildings or more environmental elements.
- The Christmas Tree look great, i would suggest however to add some ambient lights around the tree. Do this by picking five or six lights in the same area, figure out the average color (what color or colors appear most) then create a 50 to 90 radius light in the center with the rgb value being the average of the colors

Humble Master
chasester

BionicCryonic | 2011-01-25 20:21

Instead of the global ambient light, I'd recommend using the skylight command. This might lead to skewy shadows, but it's worth a shot to get good universal light outside.

Also, ambient would be better at a slightly lower level, with more lights indoor to increase the realism.

As far as I'm aware, setting a light to anything lower than the ambient has no effect. Probably wrong on this one, but meh.

Chasester_aka_you | 2011-01-25 20:59

you can change the rotation the direction of the shadows with some command ... forget what the name of it is

@the above above comment ... the point is the same and its not a spelling mistake its a grammar mistake.

Calinou | 2011-01-26 13:40

"lightpersision" > learn to write, Chase.
Your big post in general > don't be rude, he's quite new there, right?
"This map is incorrectly packaged look at the packaging guild on correct packing for all node on quad." guide, not guild. And read the previous answer. ¬_¬
EDIT: to annoy you, i set 10/10 :)

Chasester_aka_you | 2011-01-26 16:41

@calinou
Ok im ignoring the writing spelling comment; its summed up in: I am disapointmenti in you grammar!

@EVERYONE
To rating under the genneral "he's a noobie" syndrome:
Personal opion is that I rate people on there ablity to map and their ablity to improve on what they have made. There is no perfect map, some one can always find something they dont like or could be improved, whether it be from a common principle or a general pereference. Point being is that there are many things that could be improved from this map, or improved in maps that this person/user makes in the future. Im only pointing out thing that said user does not know so that they may improve upon what they have already made. I hope no one sees me as anal or nitpicky, rather instructive.

So to why i dont like people that just rate:
More or less summed to uncontructive. Beyoned just only getting a number which servers no learning curve rather just like a grade it tells you how well you did. This does not help one improve, only tells said user/person where he is at. But when one such as calinou comes along and rates based on how new one is, this just give a false value to the user, which is not contructive, or even helpful.

Lovable Jerk
chasester

Windecker | 2011-01-27 13:54

Ratings are not there for you to annoy another person, they are there to state your degree of liking towards a map.
Use them properly, or not at all.

Edit: Pleeease

SheeEttin | 2011-01-27 21:06

"Please". ;)

SirEsahc | 2011-01-30 00:41

Before I go any further I would like to say a few things to those folks that might be confused about my mapping. My main priority is to focus on placement/and or new content at the moment. Lighting, texturing, and whatever else will be left as a placeholder for the time being. Although any suggestions are welcome as I have a lot more to learn.

Anyway... Hello again, I SirEsahc releasing another update for the map Snow_Island. With a brand new docking base or whatever you want to call it (lol). Including a very nice crane (smileyface). Also a few new updates to the house as well. About the global ambient light, I am sorry to say I could not get that to work properly so I left that out for now. The theme of the map is now night time (hopefully I can blend that out nicely with later releases). Thats about it. Enjoy!

Chasester_aka_you | 2011-01-30 20:25

ok quick review:

basically what i said before
nice job on the detail added
maybe make the ladders climbable, look at the ladders map if you dont know how to make a ladder.

chasester

SirEsahc | 2011-02-11 02:08

New release everyone, v0.7 is now out!

Lots of love and hatred in this version. So yeah, a name change occured to follow the traits of other maps. Many changes and tweaks done to a few models that will probley go un-noticed. The Docks has now been extended for further development with some newly made models. Lighting is set on overkill for viewing purposes. The Crane is now climbable with a diffrent kind of method for climbing ladders (Normally you can run up ladders. Now you have to run into the ladder, then jump, and continue jumping or running). A bit of a humbug if you ask me but it suits my viewing pleasure. I should mention 1 part of the Crane uses a teleporter, you'll understand why once you try it. Umm, still having trouble coming up with content so expect that to come very slowly. Also if you find something I have not mentioned about, feel free to let me know so I can double check on them later. Last but not least, enjoy!

Just wondering, does my POV seem rather small compared to other maps? Because on other maps, when viewing my character in 1st or 3rd person, everything seems to be twice or 3x bigger then what you would normally see it as. Just curious because you guys are use to gigantic oversized models.

SirEsahc | 2011-02-26 23:47

New release v0.8 (work in progress)

- additional notes in snowisland.txt
- cfg settings adjustments
- background buildings
- barrier wall system
- experimental lighting
- map settings adjustments
- many other tweaks
- removed a few things
- train station
- tree extensions
- underground tunnels

No more summaries as I feel I can easily list changes i've made. And as always, enjoy.

Chasester_aka_you | 2011-02-27 01:36

ADD TEXTURES

Blarget2 | 2011-02-27 02:45

no, that would ruin the whole style.

Bosurgi725 | 2011-02-27 04:44

He stated this in an earlier post, "As for the texturing, I have a mechanisim for my creations that will allow me to texture quickly and easily. For the most part, i'm saving the best for last. :)" So yeah, I'm waiting to see that too.

KI113R | 2011-02-27 06:30

I didnt know if you were taking help with this, but Ive got a truck that me and redon built that would work perfect for this with a little tweaking. If you want it, just say so :P

This map is to say the least, incredible. keep up the work. cant wait to see it when its finnished.

Suicizer | 2011-02-27 14:01

First of all,

DO NO ADD 100 HEALTHBOOST IN YOUR MAP!!!
It's very annoying to hear "healthboost in 10 seconds" rapidly and very unnecassery. People can add their own 100 healthboosts if they want to.

It's very nice that you create everything out of cubes, but what about using mapmodels? Like the lanterns, fences, tubes, railway, trains,shipping containers could be created all as mapmodel, wich decreases the wtr of the map incredible (while it is 2077k calculated now and 4086k of wtr uncalculated 0.0!) and still would have the same detail.

The geometry, detail and lighting are fine (even tough the geometry is very unefficient).

Hoping to see some nice texturing on here ^^!

8/10 for now...

P.S.

DO NOT SWAP SKYBOX FOLDERS EVERY UPDATE!

Chasester_aka_you | 2011-02-27 17:30

Plus:
Z fighting issues :P

SirEsahc | 2011-03-06 08:01

snowisland v0.9 (work in progress)

- calclight with lightprecision at 128 instead of 256
- experimental background buildings and telephone poles
- prison facility
- removed all healthboost, 36 healths, and a quaddamage
- various enhancements, fixes, and tweaks

@ Chasester_aka_you: During beta.

@ KI113R: I'm the only person working on this map. And as for the truck, thanks but no thanks. Although I do welcome suggestions.

@ Suicizer: Healthboost removed? Done! Convert to mapmodels? Eh, we'll see. Also, the skybox folder has never been changed before, except for colors. Even then, that was changed once or twice.

As always, enjoy.

Snowy | 2011-03-08 23:51

great map, the objects kinda remind me of Battlefield 2 especially the crane..

5/5

RaZgRiZ | 2011-03-09 11:58

Now this map needs actual snow particles. Maybe we can annoy eihrul enough to design rain and snow in a global map scale, with areas untouched only by a roof or special material :P

Windecker | 2011-03-09 22:42

That's what Sauer-Enhanced is for, and does. ;)

RaZgRiZ | 2011-03-09 23:57

It ain't any fun when you're the only one witnessing the awesome stuff taking place. :|

Windecker | 2011-03-10 01:19

Then ~~force~~ convince other people to use it as well.

Blarget2 | 2011-03-10 03:40

or "convince" eihrul to implement the enhanced edition into saucer as a official addon.

RaZgRiZ | 2011-03-10 11:49

I find it hard that eihrul will add any sort of addon system to the game. Though, incorporating some of its features would add a new level of gameplay and editing in the engine.

FrenchBadPing | 2011-03-12 19:55

I like the style but not the map...

Calinou | 2011-03-14 08:05

Quit the "not", FrenchBadPing, Quit "upping" all those nodes.

RaZgRiZ | 2011-03-14 13:45

You should probably tend at your own problems before you rush in to tell others how to fix theirs. I'm talking about this hostility against anything France related. Keep opinions to yourself if they are likely to arouse trouble. >_>

SirEsahc | 2011-04-04 02:08

snowisland v1.0 (work in progress)

[NEW]
- benchs
- bridges
- more trees
- more rails
- plant decorations
- main sewer tunnel
- high-res single screenshots in attachments

[REMOVED]
- few bollards
- few lamps
- wall barriers

- experimental textures applied to certain objects
- fog decreased to 1600
- various enhancements, fixes, and tweaks

@Snowy: You're the first to notice the crane I made was from bf2.

As always, enjoy.

P.S. I said I would wait for beta to start applying textures eh, but I thought i'd do something special for the 10th release, also this gives everyone a brief idea of what some objects might look like with textures.

SirEsahc | 2011-05-01 07:22

[NEW]
- lift
- snow-like particles (i'm unsure what will become of this)

[REMOVED]
- textures

[OTHERS]
- ambient decresed to 0x040904 instead of 0x040904
- calclight with 64 instead of 128
- prison facility connects to underground sewer tunnels
- screenshots folder updated
- skybox texture color increased to 0x7D7D7D instead of 0x646464
- skylight increased to 0x7D7D7D instead of 0x646464
- various enhancements, fixes, and tweaks

As always, enjoy.

RaZgRiZ | 2011-05-01 09:03

I have 5 snowflake textures you could use, but they wouldn't really be useful unless eihrul would add snow particles in the game per request, but he won't. Tough luck :/

Suicizer | 2011-05-01 10:42

I remember a "new" frostbyte once had snow particles. It should be on quadropolis somewhere.

Chasester_aka_you | 2011-05-01 18:34

is this evergonna get textured :p

SirEsahc | 2011-05-15 06:49

snowisland v1.2 (work in progress)

[NEW]
- 2nd train
- billboards w/ textures (textured for fun)
- clouds
- steam engine (front piece of the train)
- storm-like particles rain/snow combined (must use /maxparticledistance 4096 to see the full effects)
- wind sounds

[REMOVED]
- few mooring bollards
- few lights
- screenshots from attachments (unnecessary)

[OTHERS]
- various enhancements, fixes, and tweaks

As always, enjoy.

Nyne | 2014-04-15 14:22

9/10, but not because I've seen anything I don't like. The -1 is b/c I lag like hell while playing this map. Please link free money coins for new graphic cards, so unemployed punks like me can have fun at this awesome map too!

Chasester_aka_you | 2014-04-16 04:58

lolz thats not cuz you have a crapy graphics card thats cuz this could be done cheaper with a ton of models :) but its kinda cool how you can manipulate marching cubes :) but models do a better job.. and are less expensive (although they do take up more hard drive space :P

chasester