3 out of 10

* The geometry is pretty rough and not very detailed. The most striking problem for me were those two pathways that lead diagonally to the center of the map which to me just looked wrong, but even without the geometric errors, there is not much to the map. I also do not like the use of glass platforms on this map, they did not fit with the rest of the theme and were unnecessary. Finally, the doorways and ceilings are about a cube too low. This prohibits jumping while passing through a doorway and restricts jumping height while inside the bases.

* The texturing is very poor. For starters, the entire map is all grey with three or four main textures used on the entire map. The use of only three or four main textures itself is not the problem, but because textures were placed largely in continuous blocks, the lack of variety was very apparent and there were no detail textures. There are some colored lights on the map as well as some blue from the glass, but for the most part everything blended to gray. Another major problem is that while on top of the map, I found it difficult to distinguish the two sides from each other. There all blue and red colored lights, but these are largely hidden if a player is on the upper platforms. The red base also has a orange hue to it, but I would prefer a more obvious sign since the bases are identical geometrically.

* There are problems with the lighting, but the textures and geometry need to be fixed first before anything can be done with this.

* Gameplay is limited as well. It seems to me that you did not have a plan while making the map, rather paths were just created somewhat impulsively. This map has the classic mirrored bases layout which is ok, but the layout of the bases themselves is bad. The glass pathways feel like some afterthought and interior spaces are cluttered and maze like. I see the map devolving into a sniping match between the two bases, which in my opinion is not cube II's strongest area.

So i have update the "ultimate camping map"... :)

I watched lamiera pretty long but i have to say : i dont get any feeling there

1. You used again this ugly glass ^^
2. the ways are very crazy ( an there are to many ways :S)
3. really open
4. some fancy corridors
5. boring textures
6. a maze at a playable map ?? i hate it :P ( like in akroseum )

I feel bad when i write this ( because with your hostility pack , you showed us a good design ) but with lamiera, you got down :S

I cant give you more then 3/10 points ( but with love xD)

Hope you will make it better the next time
Greetings Mysterious

get a PC or learn to delete these mac files...

o.o 3D maze
well. get rid of the glass nothing someone else said before

Lol what so bad about those MAC files ^^ if you dont need it , just delete it !!
and with those mac files , all mac users are able to play on this map !!

aehm drekow , wanna map something with me ? :) i got a real good idea of a greek city (CTF , Capture map)
I would enjoy this .

If you have skype , add chriss.me , if you ahve facebook , add christian schmied

I would be really glad about it ^^

THE MAP ... at best u need to learn that cube glass sucks ... it sucks so bad that it sucks at sucking .... in retrospect ... may i should get payed 10 cents for ever piece of glass on the map... it make me a millionar...

now i would disagree with the people that are above in that... this is a great map ... and very payable ... it is like a quick scetch .. artist... very mess very slopy ... but with some skillful craftmenship and guidance u can make this map good.... the layout may in fact propose to may ways to the flag ... so i propose u get rid of some of them ... like for exaple ... all of the subport beams .. no clip them... it would make less ways ...

now you need some sense of direction to the map ... it lacks ... ummm ... playablility because no one nos were to go.... i suggest getting rid of all the vertical glass... u no the stuff that goes up and down also get rid of all the glass on to ... where the bridges are in the middle ... make them ... 'jump' across the bridge... mmmmuuuuhhhhaaahahaaha ...

now on to texture.... OMG>>>next to the glass... the texture is the worst ive ever seen in my life... u need to look at a theme ...one single theme... and not randomly decide on wat you think is good for this part of the map...

some things are too square... that your geometric theme... squares ... lovely squares... but for the bases ... sprooos it up a bit... make magic ... and make some curves... like maybe on metl3 or 4 make the suborts and others squares and trapizods ...

you need to look at the over all map... stand at one base and see how many different ways there are to the other base... make 3 - 4 main ones ... 1 or 2 made of teleports 1 - 2 trick ways ... and the make every other path run into these ... this will simplify the ways to the flag... that way u can guard it from the enemies...

in CONCULTion i like to say that this is not bad for a first map ... hope to see more

YOUR HUMBLE MASTER
chasester

i made a few changes ... like no glass ... see if u like it... i added the wpt file .. so u can test it with bots... it prety complete.... tho i fell off the map a few time... ooops

if you would like to retexture the map ... do the following:
make a cfg file... i think u already have one... then write in it ...

texturerest // this will reset the textures ... so u can have only the ones you pick
texture 0 staffy/staffy_dn.jpg //this is the texture that will show in the texture menu to show the skymap
texture 0 "replace/me/with/texture.jpg // wall texture
texture 0 "replace/me/with/texure.jpg // ceiling texture
texture 0 "replace/me/with/texure.jpg // floor texture

now copy the above and replace the textures using the following formula
if a texture is in staffy folder in the packages folder.. then u needs to put
staffy/PICTURENAME.EXTENTION // most of the time the extension is jpg, or png

if you are adding your own textures create a folder with your name and put your textures in it...

the extension would look like this
texture 0 "drekow/name.jpg

a couple of functions to keepin mind
autograss allows u to add any texture as a grass looking object ... to use this properly use a png file
create an alpha background.. it looks checkered most of the time... it means there is no background... and lay
the texture you want over top it ... mind you will have to use a more professional program then paint....
USE THIS
this freeware will allow u to do everything u will want to do...

texscroll ... this allows a texture animate by scrolling 1 direction thro a texture... it has 2 numbers to add to it
texscroll 1 0
first x send y ... you will see how it works when u use it
and lastly is... exec ... when u gets a texture dont... and i repeat donot load the texture directly... always load the package...
there are normal maps and bump maps and other maps ppl use that will make the texture look bad if you dont load correctly...
if when u are looking for a texture and the texture has multiple version of the same texture... normally theres a black and white
and all blue and a polarized version... if you see any of these for the texture you are using... load the package by doing

package/thefolderthetextureisin/package.cfg... if there are 2 package files ... find the one that your texture is in and load that one...

otherwise you can load it using the texture 0 method...

other consideration... the script is k sensitive... so be careful
dont use map models ... unless u defines them... basically ... if you r going to use the mask....

when texturing .. pick a theme .... make the map look like it is some place and not many random places... A theme
that your map looks like is a futuristic space city that has been demolish .. by war or wat have u.. it is abandoned and only the
reminisce remains... idk if this is wat u had in mind... but pick some theme... with details and some kind of story behind it.. dont go blindly...

learn about particles ... i can go thru the basics ... but i think that u should look at the readme ... its pretty ez... u can use particles on
the floating platforms in the sky...

now to wat i did... i did not do much to the map... i spent like 5 min on it.... basically select everything ... and got to the material and select air ... then in the middle below the hb (heath boost) the x like platform in ... and line the base up so that it is on the plat form.... then where the quad is ... move the teles so that they are in between the small pillars ... across ways .... also move the teledest for the teleport that is out on a island by its self on the left side of both bases ... u will see it ... to the beam ... so that u dont start falling ... it also make there r 2 ways to the top ... on each side... beyond that everything else i would leave alone ... ... u could make a way or too more to the top

for texturing ... i would start with texturing everything the same and then i would texture everything else ...

u may want to read up on normal mapping if you are going to create textures... if u want .. i can help u .. and edit online with u ... :)