serverquadmaps | Quadropolis

johnkills | 2009-12-10 23:43

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UPDATE: http://www.quadmapserver.com/forum/

I had no idea where to post this, if quadropolis has a forum I didnt find it.
But since a lot of people come to this section, I can read what they think.

I was thinking about making a server with only quadropolis maps, the good and the bad maps. Everything. Everyone could play all the maps.
It would have a notice to everyone to download the maps before playing and I think it would be an incentive to people participate more on quadropolis and some good maps that were forgotten can be brought back to enjoy the excitment of everyone.

The only problems is that I could go and make the server and dont tell anyone and it would appear on the list.. but then people would think it is an official quadropolis server. So if anyone should do it, it is the owners or older members. But if you dont mind, I will do it alone. But it is better if we do it together. :p

I really want to know if people think it will work or not.

So many maps, so much work, a little dust on some maps. ;)

johnkills

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MisanthropX | 2009-12-10 23:59

nice idea, the only thing is that you cant just take every single map.. there are lots of fun maps :P or single player maps. so be a bit picky about the maps.
but basically a nice idea. but that would bring a lot of people who dont have the map but that could be done with a mod easily i would also help organizing a bit. i also have a server but cant run it 24/7 ;)

Erzeälh | 2009-12-11 04:51

Good idea. It's simple to test map with lot of player, but i think it will be hard to take place.

We have in the french community a project call "cube2.fr packmap" who is close to your idea. But a lot of problem don't let it be possible or really difficult at the moment. For exemple : the comment on modified map, the problem of person who don't have the map and come to the server and think like that.

It could be interesting to have different opinion of your idea.

LinuxJunkie | 2009-12-11 05:57

I was thinking maybe someone could make a Quadropolis map browser within Sauer, and from there the server, or the master, could choose a quad map, and force everyone on the sever to download it in realtime, and then play it. Or you could all vote on a Quadropolis map.

Basically, from within Sauerbraten, you could treat Quadropolis maps the same as we all get to treat the maps that are included with the game.

This addition to the game would get the zip files from Quadropolis, or any other server, and extract and install the files right from within Sauerbraten. Like I said earlier, this addition would also give any server the power to force everyone on that server to download new maps in realtime, and play them.

RaZgRiZ | 2009-12-11 15:00

basically that will produce problem, as EVERY SINGLE content on quadropolis should get optimized!
there are basically those DS_Store files etc, on many nodes in here (as a guess), so i think it would be better for the server to use its own database of maps after they have been formatted by special staff from quadropolis.

Kastra | 2010-02-21 20:22

It could just be localized to the stared content only. That would remove the huge amount of maps.

t-chen | 2009-12-11 16:27

oh i really like this idea! I would be really happy if this will be happen in near future. I really like to talk with interested people about some new, old, good, original or forgotten maps. But I cant help with this idea, because of my very limited server knownlegde :(
maybe, someone can open up something like a "mapping-forum", where interested people can discuss about the latest developments.

Suicizer | 2009-12-11 17:38

i like the idea to, very nice thinking :D!
i got a server to but just like misan's it cant run 24/7....
i think if u would have asked the webmaster of quadropolis, if u could start up a server with only quadropolis maps in it and he agreed, that should be enough (that would make the server official then actually :P).

jonlimle | 2009-12-11 18:43

the only problem i would see with it, is that when a map is being loaded, different people have different internet connection speeds, so it could end up taking a while for everyone to load the map
Jon limle

RaZgRiZ | 2009-12-11 19:43

that isn't really a problem.. unless they use a 56K dial up.

another problem i see is the installation utility that someone has to make! or who is gonna install the maps? not everyone out there is a pc expert to know what folders to open rofl

Windecker | 2009-12-11 22:22

Need something that simply sniffs out where the Sauerbraten folder is via the executable,
Also need a way to transfer configs, which would be read over before hand so as to not affect any bindings or aliases. But this probably wouldn't matter too much as the server will likely be something entirely new in order to save load and send complete maps, will it not? ( I didn't read All the comments yet. :P )

jonlimle | 2009-12-11 19:57

even if they use a DSL connection it is considerably slower than a basic high speed connection
Jon limle

johnkills | 2009-12-11 20:57

I am glad most of you liked the idea.

Misanthrop, yeah I would like your help. Exactly like t-chen there I dont have a server knowledge but I know people with servers who would probably help and running a server is not exactly rocket science. Everyone can learn that quick! Yeah, help as much as you want. :)

LinuxJunkie, that is a good idea but it would need to change the client. It is way more complex then a server mod. But maybe you could submit this idea to the developers, I am sure they would like it.

Quadpack...

Maybe quadropolis could release something called a QuadPack, since most maps have around 5mb or less a good pack with many maps would be around 100 mb and I am sure most people would think that was easier. It would have an installer to make everything easier.

I think 1 "QuadPack" can cover all the maps or at least the really good maps.

johnkills

Suicizer | 2009-12-11 22:45

john, u dont want my help?
nice 2 know then :S...

btw, i think another problem is: configs
some maps use .cfg files, and in sum config-files r costumtextures.
hard 2 solve that i tihnk...

johnkills | 2009-12-11 23:03

Yes suic, I want your help. It is not exactly my project. It is something we can all do together. If you all know someone who is a good server genius, call him in!

Suic, think of QuadPack like a big Zip file, everything organized in subfolders. It could be hosted here, torrents, rapidshare and many other alternatives. Someone logs in "Quadmaps Server" and a notice would display that in order to play on the server you would first need to download the zip file.

"btw, i think another problem is: configs
some maps use .cfg files, and in sum config-files r costumtextures.
hard 2 solve that i tihnk..."

Big Zip file with everything solves it? :P

I think a lot new people will make cool new maps because they will know their maps will be played in a server. Today even starred content are not played that often.

Suicizer | 2009-12-12 22:20

sorry, but can u get the cfg ingame then?

Ludwig van | 2009-12-12 22:26

as far as I know it will not be recieved with the getmap command.

skiingpenguins | 2009-12-11 23:48

I think that it would be relatively easy to do this, as long as people dont modify the maps and .cfg's when it is packaged into a big .zip..

Ludwig van | 2009-12-12 06:47

The mappack idea should be the easiest way to do it. The thing is, that noobs still won't come to the server, because of the mappack install barrier. But that would be ok.

Erzeälh | 2009-12-12 07:22

That the principe of the "cube2.fr packmap" project.

You download each month or each 2 month a pack of map easy to install with a pass (new each new pack) to acces to the server.

The idea was to propose a server with the new map to test them by mode. For exemple, one week, or one day, only capture map are access. After this delimited period, the server change the mode. By this way, there is no break between mode that can let leave the player and all map are test (not only the instactf map who are the most popular).

Windecker | 2009-12-12 13:00

I like it.

soilah | 2009-12-12 14:03

Thats the same idea which came up to my mind some time ago. I'm happy to see it posted. Easiest solution imo would be:

*One big map-pack
All the new SVN-maps and QP-maps which offer some minimum quality (which could be measured by the QS-user-voting; it hast no effect on the next maps in the next sauer-release so let's actively use it in this context). All cleaned up and prepared for the Sauer-file-structure.

*Dedicated server(s)
I think that a server which can only be accessed by password is not the right solution; non-Quadropolis-users will never hear about it (I didn't knew about the similar french project for example...). A small servermod which sets all players who get the "...modified map!"-message automatically to spectator + information on the server and the project through welcome-, and info-messages would perfectly do it.

*Website
I don't know if thats really necessary. But it would need at least a special section on QP to offer the right space for map-pack-discussion and maybe some polls concerning maps, the project itself and so on...

There will be no built-in map-download-fuction afaik; at least not from the developers side. Some people already requested that.

Hopefully this project will work - I'm looking forward to it!

skiingpenguins | 2009-12-12 14:31

can use hopmod for the server part, because it allows you to edit the banner (for the message on where to get maps), you can edit the maprotation lists (so only maps in the pack are played), and it can spectate people who have modded maps. it would also be easy to write a script for hopmod to send the download link when someone is spectated for modded maps. in a private message to them, that is.

soilah | 2009-12-12 15:27

Yes - I meant HOPmod ofc. :)

RaZgRiZ | 2009-12-12 22:33

Seriously now penguins, i use D_wicked's enhanced textures. What happens if a map in the map pack doesn't use a cfg?I have to do a calclight with the new textures and save. BLAM! I have a modified map. Seriously, jpgs don't support alpha channels as far as i know (or do they?). The system whoud get an upgrade to be able to tell if there are geometry modifications, or changed textures (not additional texture maps). Otherwise, people using the enhanced textures like me won't be able to play half they maps, will they? =)

RaZgRiZ ~ One Shot, One Fail

(and sorry, it seems i pressed reply on the wrong post :P)

skiingpenguins | 2009-12-12 23:08

Then dont use modified content, as it will say it's a modified map :)

RaZgRiZ | 2009-12-12 23:16

Well, sorry for being someone who loves his enhanced textures, it just happens that 3D looks a lot better than an old 2D texture >.>
the results are just amazing, just try and see it in ot. everything looks awesome with them, despite the small performance addition. if you compare my blood_rain map with and without these textures, you can only say it looks like crap without.

RaZgRiZ ~ One Shot, One Fail

FischKopF | 2009-12-13 01:53

I have the same problem. its really annoying that only calclight makes it a modified map.

Erzeälh | 2009-12-12 14:47

"(I didn't knew about the similar french project for example...)"

Simply because we never talk about it except between us. But technical problem freeze this project some month ago, so this discution about a similar project interest us.

The problem with the server access to everyone is when you have player who don't have the map every ten minute can be really annoying and unbalance constantly the game. That want we think about password server. Another solution could be server where you are automatically in spect if you don't have the pack.

Suicizer | 2009-12-13 00:31

so actualy just the "nubcake modified quadropolismap." spectator feature on hopmod...

Ludwig van | 2009-12-12 22:50

i have written a little page with a small mappack already. Furthermore you can write some mapsuggestions in a Guestbook. Currently on this server, but I think, that I still have some free domains from my provider left to register quadmapserver.com:
http://www.lenz-loesche.com/quadmapserver
Tell me what you think! Now we "only" need a modded or scripted (whatever) server ;). If a 24/7 server cannot be found, we could use another server instead. Minimum would be that the server could be online on a regular basis like 3 same days (weekend?) a week, I'd say.

johnkills | 2009-12-13 01:10

Awesome website :)

I think it would be nice to register that. If you can do it.
The server might be 24/7, I talked with someone I know who owns servers and he might run it. I dont know yet.

Do we all agree on that name for the server? quadmapsserver.com or quadropoliserver.com? something else?

I noticed they just made a Forum. Maybe they will give us a section for us to talk about what maps go in the pack and other things.

http://www.quadropolis.us/forum

skiingpenguins | 2009-12-13 01:52

i can make a script for the map rotations, and all that jazz in hopmod, if that's the path yall wanna go... now to go get virtualbox working

Ludwig van | 2009-12-13 16:09

i have just registered http://www.quadmapserver.com
and istalled a forum: http://www.quadmapserver.com/forum/
Pretty fast uh? Well, hopefully not to fast ;)

MisanthropX | 2009-12-13 17:13

quadropolis really needs a forum ~.~ i think ill make one .. an easy phpbb2 for the beginnin

Ludwig van | 2009-12-13 17:31

a new forum has been opened http://www.quadropolis.us/forum

Suicizer | 2009-12-13 19:01

damn ur fast ludwig ;).
can i ask if u need an acc on ur site, to suggest a map?

Ludwig van | 2009-12-13 19:20

Thanks for telling me, I thought it already worked. Now it is indeed workin. You will have to enter a fake email to post a topic, but i will work on that.

FischKopF | 2009-12-13 19:54

awesome a quadropolis map server :D
finally edit: too bad it isn't online yet :(

Suicizer | 2009-12-13 20:24

it seems there r already much servers on the master server, why it wouldnt be an option to just ask the admins of those servers?
i personally think the people that run FN|F F A server (http://rainbow.furver.se/), could be a option? i once asked something about their server and they seems to be pretty flexible.

RaZgRiZ | 2009-12-14 19:05

ludwig, where did the reply buttons etc went after the forum theme change? o.O
actually, i cannot post at all in the Members Boards as a member, while i also couldn't as a guest at the Open Boards rofl
do some search on this please? :)
and mind using an image verification for each post a guest makes. you don't want bots do you? ;)

RaZgRiZ ~ One Shot, One Fail

Ludwig van | 2009-12-14 19:22

you did reply, so it did work. The button is on the right. Guest reply is working, I tested it. Working on image verification, thx for the info.

RaZgRiZ | 2009-12-14 19:42

I'm serious on what i said... there just isn't anything! I can reply in the open but not in the members sections! i mean wtf! it became like that after the theme change

Ow great! now i can't even post on the topic regarding the maps archive! from the moment you moved it into the member's section i can no longer reply.. what the heck is wrong! o.O
I'm on Firefox 3.6 Beta

RaZgRiZ ~ One Shot, One Fail

Ludwig van | 2009-12-14 19:51

ah ok. fixed. Sorry, about that.

RaZgRiZ | 2009-12-14 19:58

there was a problem then? I thought the cache clear and refresh i did fixed it. ow well, back to posting ^^

RaZgRiZ ~ One Shot, One Fail

johnkills | 2009-12-14 20:44

Maybe we can continue our talk on the forum made by Ludwig but I wish we had a section on quads forum too because some people might not read about it.

RaZgRiZ | 2009-12-14 20:55

At the current state i hardly believe people are paying attention to the tiny "Forum" link at the top of the page more than they would see the node on the right. common sense ain't it? ;)

RaZgRiZ ~ One Shot, One Fail

johnkills | 2009-12-14 21:01

Yes :P

Ludwig van | 2009-12-14 22:55

johnkills, could you post the link to the website/forum www.quadmapserver.com in the description, or in the picture? It might be easier to spot then. "Map suggestions are welcome."
thx

johnkills | 2009-12-15 01:10

Quin | 2009-12-15 04:08

Razgriz: Fixed, recent content block now displays all content types.

Please do move this over to the forums and let me know when I can delete this inappropriate node. You guys actually kinda prompted me to get on the ball about enabling the forums here in a productive manner with this, so consider the job done :P

johnkills | 2009-12-15 20:01

"let me know when.."

Never! :p

Suicizer | 2009-12-16 17:44

xD lol...

Drekow | 2010-02-19 20:21

So... who have a server?

RaZgRiZ | 2010-02-19 22:24

no idea actually, everything is so dead lately, there's been more than a week the the forum has seen a reply, i don't know whats happening. most of the people don't reply back. seems like the project is halted until a server can be established, otherwise the map pack won't get any attention.. :(

Windecker | 2010-02-20 14:50

New question, Who is willing to run a server all the time for no pay? :)
I'd run one but I would not be able to keep it up constantly,

Drekow | 2010-02-20 14:54

No heroes here?

Suicizer | 2010-02-20 23:21

same to me either D:
maybe i can ask a good guy if he can :P.