COLORS Limited Edition

thojoh370 | 2006-05-15 16:03

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Blurb A capture map for two teams (in limited version - four teams in full)

Screenshot COLORS Limited Edition

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Detailed description

COLORS is a capture arena.

Each room contains:
1. A maze with armor jumppad in the middle
2. A tower with a teleport
3. A base flag (neutral when map loads)
4. Two exits to the other room

In the middle of the mazes you can find jumppad holes. Go into them and jump, jump, jump
until you get into the little hole in the roof - in which there's a yellow armor (unfortunately
it is half-hidden in the roof).

The lightning was cool, until I lighted the maze up (I had to!)... ;)

Map file colors.zip (599.45 KB)

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Comments

makkE | 2006-05-15 18:16

This is simply bad imho. Rating: -5 Please don´t post any 1/2 hour maps.

Why do I spawn on the roof? 2 textures and a totally uninspired maze, and the jumpad doesn´t work at all. Read the user´s guide please. Thnx.

thojoh370 | 2006-05-15 18:34

I don't know why you spawn on roof actually. I've seen that too... I'm going to fix it as soon as possible.

I know that this map contains as low as 2 textures, but that is the theme of the map, too.

This is not a ½ hour work. This is 56% of a whole hour.... the FULL version consists of 3 hours work.

I've seen a map like this previously published. Why is everything on me?

makkE | 2006-05-15 18:45

You probably put a spawn somewhere where there´s not enough space, so the player will spawn in the next possible location: the roof in this case.

I STRONGLY suggest you don´t publish map that has a problem you are already aware of.

BTW: 3 hours is a joke. A good map takes at least 5 days, preferably 2 weeks to make. This is already exeptional in cube/sauer. Other engines require you to spend months.

Please refrain from posting your 3 hour maps here. This place is intended for serious stuff.

Kurtis84 | 2006-05-15 22:43

Compare your work to the maps included with Sauerbraten, and decide from that if they are worthy of uploading. Just because someone else posted a...simple ( trying to be nice ) map here, doesn't mean people want simple maps here, it just means someone before you made the same mistake.

thojoh370 | 2006-05-16 16:34

This is the limited version - unfinished. And if he posted a map like that I'm gonna post a map like that.

You didn't mention in his comment list that it was simple.

thojoh370 | 2006-05-16 16:38

Click here to view the map that I'm talking about. (You didn't even listen.)

Passa | 2006-05-16 20:45

Shifting worlds? That map is heaps better than yours, the guy who made that map also made roughinery in Sauerbraten. Also that map was for Cube, Cube maps have lower standards.

thojoh370 | 2006-05-17 17:36

That is what saves me, right?

Passa | 2006-05-16 20:47

I just realised, when you have a map that is worth 0 stars, the lowest you can rate is 1. I think when there is a 0 star map it should just be removed.

thojoh370 | 2006-05-17 12:42

CC_machine | 2006-05-17 17:21

quote from the author on a msn chat:
they could say: "This should be improved" instead of "This map sucks"

imho he is right, he bothered to try to make a map, and that deserves "well done, but it should be improved" rather than "it doesnt conform to our standards, lets delete this crap".

hes gonna learn something, and thats what matters.

also i've decided not to post a map on here again (at least not for a while) because of the critisisms recieved, and no "i'd like to see more of this" from anyone, like i have seen on others' maps.

@makkE: i take it youre a n00b to forums, back seat moderating is frowned upon.

Passa | 2006-05-17 21:58

"and no "i'd like to see more of this" from anyone, like i have seen on others' maps."

Thats because those maps were nice, what, you think people are picking on thojoh370? This map sucks, not even an hours work. He is just 'spamming' this forum with useless rubbish maps. Surely he can look at killfactory or something, then look at his map and decide if it should be published. Because this map is absolute crap.

"they could say: "This should be improved" instead of "This map sucks""

Its beyond repair, this map just sucks. Some maps are just LIKE that. Look at some of DTurboKiller's first maps. They are beyond repair also. You understanding me now?

thojoh370 | 2006-05-18 10:26

This is my map - I can fill this list of comment however I want. And yes, I do think people is "picking" on me. They just.... want me outta here.

Passa | 2006-05-18 10:51

If it helps you at all, look at some of DTurboKiller's first maps. They sucked. But he moved on and kept going. He accepted criticism and advice. Now his maps have improved alot. Just hang in there. But my advice to you is not to submit maps that are not anywhere near finished. And you simply cannot have as little as two textures. Also, mazes add very little to gameplay. Try to learn from other maps. Open up fb_capture for example, and have a look at its geometry and texturing. Try to put that sort of detail in your maps. Not as in copying, but the same amount of detail. You will be able to see the huge amount of work neccessary to make a nice map. A good map takes a week, a fantastic map takes a month and a OMFG RPG AWESOME MAP takes half a year :-)

Good luck, and just remember, no-one is picking on you.

makkE | 2006-05-18 09:58

Okay it wasn´t really okay to call it crap.
Sorry bout this. I apologise, but I´m only human too.

I simply got ennerved since trojoh is cluttering this site up with lots of useless posts, a bad guide, mistaking this for a forum,even trying to make a forum thread, asking questions that belong to the official forums, just because noone answers him 10 minutes after posting there. That´s not what this site is for.

Plus this particular map is clearly beta, the author even says so, and if you check out the user´s guide, that´s not what this site is meant for. It´s simply a diffrence if a map is finished but gets updated due to comments and ratings and a map that is clearly percieved and intended beta.

I must say appreciate ratboy´s idea of a a wip and beta section. This would really help.

thojoh370 | 2006-05-20 07:57

The idea about the new section(s) would be good for me.
(But, isn't that going to lead the downloaders to the "finished"
maps - making them not to visit the "unfinished maps" section?)

RatBoy | 2006-05-20 22:50

Those that wish to use their knowledge to help the newbiews will enter that section and help with tips. This way "unfinished" maps get in the way of those that simply want better and newer maps for the game.

RatBoy | 2006-05-18 00:14

Ok. I'm going to comment about this situation first, then about the map.

Somewhere on the site it says that it's intended to have completed maps and serious ones. I don't really remember where.
But there's no community where there are only pro's, the n00bs are always there, and n00bs that want to improve their owrk should be encouraged to, and helped to.

So, I've a proposition that I think that will help, since there are more and more alpha maps being posted. My idea is splitting the Maps section in two, one for the WIP maps, and another for the finished and quality maps or "serious".

I think it's an easy thing to do and would help a LOT to these common discussions.

It's only an idea, I'm not requesting anything or saying it should be that way. Hope it helps.

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Well, about the map. I think you should read every guide about mapping that there is for Cube/Sauer, and also the reference manual for editing, and read it REALLY CAREFULLY. After that, notice that you've used a texture that is supossed to be a carpet on walls and ceiling. You should really take some time to find out what each texture represents, and place it where it should be or doesn't look SO out of place. After all that, know that mazes in deathmatch are rarely fun to play. I suggest you read makkE's guide to mapping on this site, and to google some general mapping tips. Good luck with that.

thojoh370 | 2006-05-20 07:54

Well RatBoy, I used the carpet texture for walls and ceiling.
However, this was only the Limited Edition. I will remove it when the
Full Version is published. CC_Machine and I am working on it. ;-)

SheeEttin | 2006-12-19 00:00

Use textures freely, as long as they look good. For example, there's one wallpaper texture that works very well as carpeting--but if it looks good how they're using it, they use it. (Reminds me of making art out of piping.)

But still, you shouldn't upload half-finished maps without expecting people to not like it when they're used to better quality maps. Just upload the "full" (Full? WTF?) map when it's finished in the place of this one. As long as it's quality, of course.

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