ok, it's nice to hear some feedback, i'll take your opinion into consideration...

thanks, regards

Edit : You like them more now, or do they need more tweaking?

Ty for your comment.

Hmm, I will try to make them less bumpy by blurring out the height maps, And maybe decrease the brightness and adjust the contrast filters.
That would probably do the job.

Regards

Edit : I updated the texture pack, would you care to check it out and tell me if it has improved a tad?

thx

I only used infranview ( sometimes I use photo magic ) to make the textures, I just used some filters to make these normals, spec and height maps.

Btw, did you like these textures suicizer?

its a very nice idea, i really like it :D!
but there are some problems. i dont know what it could be (probably the shaders?) but if u replace ur textures 4 the old, u start up sauerbraten and activate the map "ot", then there are pretty much texture errors, like uncalced spots (so u gotta calclight every map with egyptsoc textures and save them afterward what leads to that u always moded the map =s), shaderpatched hilltexture etc...

maybe it would be nice if there should be some less shaders in it, cause its lookin now if everything is gonna melt right away :P. Maybe another suggestion (even tough i would like 2 try to create to, but maybe some other textures 4 me then :P), would it be a bad idea if u could give the old boxtexture (srry i couldnt find that quick in wich folder its standing and what name its got, but i hope u understand that i mean the boxtexture used in "ot") a little shader? i actualy was thinking about like a bit less then the woodtexture on tab 11...

further i got some more questions:
- do u make those filters with infranview to then?
- whats the command 2 get a specific list from the textures in a folder, for as example egyptsoc (srry i 4get everytime, going 2 write it down 10 times this time :P)?
- whats the command 2 get only 1 specific texture from a folder?

already tyvm 4 ur reply, i hope u got something on this comment. keep texturepimping :D!

Well, the bug in the map "ot" is because that map loads some textures from it's own config, instead of my config, I will try to edjust these configs, so these errors won't occur.

You could try and play on refuge and damnation and c_egypt. Those maps don't have texture errors because they recall my config :) ( I don't know if I'm making sence here )

I didn't inlude the maps because it would make this zip too large, and I can't upload the zip. So you need to recalc the first time, and then save your map with the same name, so it will be the last time you need to recalc.

Uhm, eventually I'm going to do all the textures without shader, so that boxtexture you are talking about will be shadered in the future.

you stated : "its lookin now if everything is gonna melt right away"
I think that is just a matter of taste, the new version already has decreased specular and height maps.

Answers to your questions :

- I didn't made my own filters, I just used some brightness and contrast filters the right way, in wich this is the result.

- Uhm, just type /exec packages/egyptsoc/package.cfg I guess :)

- Uhm, I'm not sure that there is a command for that, but you should just add the lines from tha package.cfg and copy those lines in your map config, and then only that texture would be available for usage.

ty for your intrest in my project btw :)
( don't forget to rate this content ;) )

Regards

- can i ask why the map "reissen" uses shadered textures to, but still resets its textures?
- is there a way u could fix those "texturereset" problems? because there r pretty much maps that are using it (as another example then "ot", "dust2" (with those shaders, other textures arent fitting very well anymore but no bugs like "ot" in it).

there are some more maps that could be in ur content: "arabic" isnt getting decreased with the shadered textures (even tough it doesnt uses much of them). Same for "tejen" and "metl3" but its seems it using some kinda command 2 block ur shaders. This could be a very nice alternative for maps that r ment 2 keep the "old" egyption style like it is. (could u plz tell me wich? dmt still got much 2 learn :P)

btw, i ment with "its lookin now if everything is gonna melt right away", that the stone walls, bricks, etc looks so warm that its not lookin old anymore, like it shoud be in egyption maps =s.

maybe useful (exept if u already know it and i bet u do =s): i downloaded again after ur upd8, and sometimes (only happened once while i was messing up with /shaderdetail :P), i dont have 2 calclight.

a suggestion: it looks very nice if make a screenshot from refuge with rotoscope on and ur textures in use (creates a nice effect with the shaders). i bet u know the command but 4 sure, /showgui postfx (/setfullscreenshader doesnt work after new release =s).

a suggestion 4 next texturefolder: maybe, u could (even u said u would do all unshadered textures, i think thats not that good idea) give the old metal textures like used in metl3, c_valley or katrez_d give a little shader.

i can rate now, but there still some bugs in it that would be nice if they would get solved =s.

a critical part: did u actualy got permission from the person who made those textures that ur pimping?

anyways keep up texturepimping :D!

Heh, it's good to know that you like my effort at enhancing the old textures, and thanks for your nice comments btw :)

Ok, I fixed that small bug you mentioned. Ty for pointing that out :)

I made a bumpmapped rock01 texture, as you requested, and maybe I will include that one soon in this package ( or in an attachment )

The copyright issues are indeed a big problem.

Sadly I don't think they will include my package, why? Well, they halted/stopped development. :(

Well, I'm glad you liked my texture enhancement :)
And I will try and do techsoc too.

Regards

Oh no... Maybe I should lower my vote. MORE motivation to create Egyptian maps? That can't be good. We've already got an excess of them and we don't need any more lol.

Oh well. Thanks for making the rock1 texture.. So.. I didn't quite understand what you wrote. Did you say you weren't given permission to continue production?

As far as I'd understand, as long as you don't change the EXACT files the original people submitted and you put all of your bump/spec/glowmaps in a seperate file, that would be fine. Even by putting it into the original egyptsoc folder would be problematic without permission.. And of course editing people's config files would bring problems. This node would be of use pretty much for people who make maps in the future, or those who want to edit their old configs to have the bump/spec/glow.

good question, this troubles me too :/
any clues D_wicked? :D

If your directory ( wich is located in the packages directory ) is named eg : "template" and in that folder there is a texture named : template01 then your package.cfg should include these lines :

setshader stdworld

texture 0 "template/template01.jpg"

Then ingame you need to exec as you do normaly :

exec "packages/template/package.cfg"

That should do the trick :)

PS : tech1soc package almost finished..

i guess i dont get it, but i named the folder where those textures r in "suicizer" and added into my packages.cfg "setshader stdworld" (on first line). further i putted(for example) "texture 0 black_1.jpg" (256x256, so that couldnt be the problem) 2 lines lower, then 1 line free and on 1 line lower, "texture 0 white_1.jpg".

(like this:)
setshader stdworld

texture 0 black_1.jpg

texture 0 white_1.jpg

so why its actualy not working?

It did not work because you forgot to type the directory it's in.
( I clearly shown it in my explination on how to do it though :) )

try this :

setshader stdworld

texture 0 suicizer/black_1.jpg

texture 0 suicizer/white_1.jpg

It should work now :)

ah k thats what i didnt understand :P. thx

I know these textures are less bumpy as they should appear, but this is temporarly. I will try to enhance those height maps, and try do do them in an other way. It will take more time, but I guess it could be worth it.

MisanthropX, did egyptsoc improve a bit?

I know of this so called "problem". But it's only a small detail and you really need to look at the textures to see it, and it can't be fixed, sorry.

Btw, this occurs with all textures who use height maps..

arent shaders ment 4 decoration/detail?

Heh, I'm glad too see that you like it :)
I will do that package, but currently, I don't really have that much spare time to be doing that stuff..

I could say that it will be done next week..

There are more maps wich use these textures to it's fullest, but these require .cfg files ( wich I already adjusted ) But the problem is that I can't upload them because I need permission of every person to be changing the .cfg files...

EDIT : btw, update your vote if needed :)

I just wanted to say go ahead and upload tejen.cfg if you've modified it for your new texture set.

I fully support your efforts in this. I did the same for the rorschach texture set but didn't even consider upgrading older maps.

Good job so far! Keep it up!

All non-shadered packs will be made in time..

First I'm probably going to do dg package, and then the ik packages.
I'm glad to hear that I'm not the only one that likes my texture enhancements :)
I actually halted this project for lack of intrest, but now I'm optimistic again, so I will continue my work asap.

Regards,

D_wicked

cant u use setshader? it gives most time the same effect, and its giving an acces to shadering non-shadered textures (take as example phosgene)...

PhillipK textures are already normal mapped, there is no need.

I personally have gotten permission to use higher resolution versions of the PhillipK textures ( I mailed him and asked ) and am currently working on a config. ( they are all double the size, and without the artifacting done by the .jpg format )

He probalby meant that there are no Height maps ( as with mitamans package )
I guess I could try and do those height maps, but I think those already look good enough :)

By height maps, do you mean displacement maps? If so, Normal maps do the same thing.

Ok, I will explain..

A texture can have a spec map(s). This one gives glow to everything.
A texture can have a normal map(n), wich allows a texture to emit shadows.
A texture can have a height map(z) wich elevates some places on the texture.

There is only one case where a normal map does this, and that is when they use an alpha channel in it. (but this only apply's to trak's textures.)

Regards

mmmk.. I'll just go continue doing what I was doing...

could u plz tell me what the exactly commands are (to put in a cfg 4 example) to activate those texturechanges?

actually if you want to fix the map cfgs to use the custom enhanced textures, you can do this:

1) Open up the map cfg and see the textures it points to
2) Then open up the package.cfg of the textures the map uses, and copy the texture details, like this:

setshader bumpspecmapparallaxglowworld
setshaderparam "glowcolor" 0.6 0.6 0.3

texture 0 "tech1soc/sqrlig02wb.jpg"
texture n "tech1soc/sqrlig02wbn.jpg"
texture z "tech1soc/sqrlig02wbz.jpg"
texture s "tech1soc/sqrlig02wbs.jpg"
texture g "tech1soc/sqrlig02wbg.jpg"

This texture is a light so don't forget to copy the glowcolour parameter from above, and always use the right shader for them to work.

Hope this helps, good luck suic :)

Great work, starred.

Thank you very much for the starred content!
I now feel like my work hasn't been in vain!

Btw, thank you all for your ratings!

its not the only map looking weird, but i thought calclighting the new lightmaps and saving was common sense to do ;)
i advice taking a tour on common maps and see if their lightmaps are alright, and if not, calclight and save :)

but i did calclight on most maps and valley_c still looks weird after calc^^

ok, so it was a bug afterall, see reply below mine :P

Thanks, this bug will be fixed in my next release! It was a small flaw where the line of the normal map used the wrong extension. It should have been tile28b_normal.png

Thanks for the report!

Suicizer01, I don't know for sure, but do you know that I'm not that ignorant? :P I know what I'm doing, but you on the other hand..

That texture had a normal map, but I added the height and spec map.
So please stop trying to make me look bad eh?

If you don't believe me, then just switch the shaders off, and you will see that the texture bumps out a little.

P.S. : this will be the last time that I will even consider to respond to your "trying to look for flaws" behaviour.

Regards

I smell something big coming up...

I'd say they might be included if a new map that makes use of them gets included in the main branch. Otherwise it's just seen as extra bloat (and some map authors actually prefer the flat look).

Yeah, I guess poum's maps could be candidates for the release, and my textures really shine in those maps made by him imo..

But you are right, there is no need to rush stuff :)

Btw, have you noticed anything that needs any adjustments? Nobody hascommented about my new normalmaps yet.. So I think they are good?

Ok, thx for the update. I forgot to upload that file, so it used the one there already was ( that box already had some shaders )

So I fixed it now, it should be blinding your eyes no more :)

If there are more bugs/things, be free to tell them to me.

Regards

and maybe you want to say which pack of those 5 was updated so users don't have to download all 5 of them to find the change in the fifth packet >.>

i was also thinking of having the ratboy>katrez pack made :)

Thx for the reply.

Ok, for the calclight problem and the modification conflict.. I can't do anything about that, sadly.
Could you tell me wich of the texture packages ( or even wich textures in particular ) need to be less bumpy? I did too many textures, so you need to tell me where I need to tone down the bumpyness ;)

Normals for lava is not possible. :(

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Could you tell me on wich textures these "bugs" are noticable, and on what maps? This could help me to do a better job..

BTW, I redid mitamans textures. I redid all his normals, and added parallax mapping. They all look very good, but the zip is almost 30mb.. So that's to big.

actually sometimes on specially (not so much) made cubes, if you push 2 sides equally and make their corner be no more (like cutting the cube diagonally) the egypt textures have nothing but blackness ontop. it only appears at a specific overlook rotation and can only be fixed if you make the same shape of a cube, without following the described procedure.
its minor but rather annoying to see.

Also sometimes textures tend to blacken out completely or at a big rate, without being affected by the lights. its related to having a part of the cube render the skytexture. think its possible to fix?