Lot of work but veryy very beautiful result! A map who has potential to be starred content for me... Gg!

Visually very good and plays well. Good sound, my only suggestion would be to tone down the amount of rain as I don't think it adds anything to the gameplay. Less is more.

Nice one guys! We already spoke about it , i find it well but maybe more weap? :)

you need to rename "Obidos2.jpg" to "obidos2.jpg" for cross-platform compatibility.
you need to rename the "sound" subdirectory to "sounds" so the OGG file can be played.
your map's CFG should not contain the "mapmsg" command .. while not "illegal" it's not the way to go - type it into the console while editing and it will be saved to the OGZ!

The map is very nice, wonderful setting with exquisite details - love those catapults! :)
Also the item-placement and general layout seem well thought out - I bet this is great for 1on1's but can also hold a good many more players.
Nice "secret passage" too - I often find the usage of these sort of "gimmicks" (if you don't mind me calling it that) to be ill advised, but you made it noticeable by those cracks in the wall, so it's not falling into the usual class of "gimmick" there (at least for me).
I'll give you 5 stars for this .. just assuming you'll come round to fixing the mentioned bits.

Just a suggestion, but I think it would work a lot better to use models for the cannon balls, as it is easier to make them looked stacked.
Also, if you figure out texture blending, I think it could benefit the ground greatly.

I love the map, It has great environment and a beautiful appearance, It gives you lots of room to move, and lots of ways to the other base, good for all close, medium, and long range combat.
It also looks plenty detailed without sucking the life outa my system.

I particularly like how you closed the map off and allow the player to go in the water, Ive seen maps that have a similar layout and on those the water was always instant death. Your method is better. =P

I will fix the packagind tomorrow ;) new version soon

Thanks a lot for your comment and for yours votes ;)

The map is detailed and everything but it doesn't look like it would have very interesting gameplay. First off, the layout is basic. It's symmetrical in 4 directions so options are limited. If you fall into the water you don't die, and I don't see how you would escape the water.

The sword patterns in the walls don't look natural, and the lighting doesn't make the tapestries look real. They look artificially textured. The patterns on the walls in the entrance don't look like they should be there.

The catapults are a really good idea actually. They have great detail and are very creative. The only thing is that the lighting isn't the best for their precise details. Maybe that's just me..

The blocks near the flags aren't perfect in proportions. Some are diagonal, and others are straight but they don't have a similar size. Try to fix that.

Also, maybe change the doves on one of the catapults to a bat or something, so the map isn't so identical on both sides.

The map is really small and limited so there's no atmosphere at all. The rain sounds are too loud imo, and this sound is distorted. I've commented this way on another map so I should probably take a look at my speakers.. The point is, the sound doesn't add to the atmosphere if there's nothing else to build off. You have no external architecture (mountains, etc) except those small, artificial-looking ones, and the fog covers them so much that they look like gray masses.

I don't know.. You have good details and work put into what's here, but there's nothing of substance.

3/5.

Kreten, if you fall intoe the water, you can take the teleport on the water, or go out on left side and on right side ...
There not really 4 way you can go to water(right side of water, left side of the hole)go to the left side and right side, take the catpult take,secret passage or not, take the ladder behing the castle or take the princiapl entrance, and more.... Please play more on the map before critic this...

The fog is necessary because without sniper on castle can snip player on the other castle....

The sword on the flag,.... it's a bit like artistic thing...

New packaging done with bug of packagind regled

Nice!

welllllllll... It's still symmetrical 4-ways; once down the middle in either direction. You might have multiple options, but they would still be greater if it wasn't so symmetrical. As stands, there's no reason a player would take one path over another, as the paths are identical.

I'm not against artistic things but they need to fit. Keep the sword if you like, but it doesn't look authentic.

As for the fog, you can still snipe. You'll just be shooting at gray masses. Since you get the blue symbol if you're aiming at a teammate, you'll still know if you're shooting an opponent. The fog only serves to make the map look artificial (sauer fog isn't the most authentic so it's best to tone it down).

And I still say the water looks weird :P I didn't see the teleport but if there's only one way out of the water, that makes it suicide to fall in. Given that there's no strategic value to going into the water, why not deathclip it?

And I'd still push that sound.. it is loud.

Basically, as I've said before I don't judge maps based on their potential gameplay; I judge it mostly on aesthetics and what gameplay I immediately see when I play. I'm not going to spend an hour doing playtests or fighting bots. Anyways, my opinions don't change. Take them for what they're worth.

Kreten, i read advices on quadro from long time and each time i read you, it's always a great laughing moment.

Please, test map seriously before talk about it. It's not a problem of love or not a map, everyone can have his opinion but you say to much stupidity.

When you said :

"As for the fog, you can still snipe. You'll just be shooting at gray masses. Since you get the blue symbol if you're aiming at a teammate, you'll still know if you're shooting an opponent. The fog only serves to make the map look artificial (sauer fog isn't the most authentic so it's best to tone it down)."

It prove that you only visit the map fastly and alone and don't test it. A multiplayer map must be test in team or it's impossible to do serious critic except only on the aesthetics impression. ----> On this map, you can't see the opposant in the fog, only the shadow of the castle. The shadow of ennemy don't appear through the fog. We have choice to put fog for this reason, but when you visit alone a map, you can't see the effect of fog on gameplay.

And for the symetrical, is it really a problem? Perhaps you are right, but when we know that you don't test it, how can we take your critic of boring symetrical gameplay for serious.

Regards,
Erzealh

new packaging with little modifiaction:

.aesthetic of teleport are changes
.Little bug on the water correct
.little bug on the tapestries correct

The map is great, in my opinion. I especially like the thunder sounds. But, I must ask, why is my skybox in the variance folder and not penguins? Please include the readme with the skybox... like it said in the readme.

Please lower down the sfx volume, it's really boring if not annoying imo.

@MeatROme, I'm just trying to understand: since you are "VERY stingy with stars" and here you voted 5/5, should I suppose this map is a total masterpiece to you?

Okay, I execed the cfg but it keeps spamming cannot read sample sound: rain.ogg or something like that. I use a mac. Where should I put that file?

Nevermind, I fixed it. Great map, btw!

I must say that having two castles on a map is almost always awesome.

Positive Aspects:
-The layout is nice and easy to navigate.
-The weapons and jumppads are well distributed.
-The sea of water around the castles is cool (that must've been challenging to model!).
-Those catapult things are neat.

Negative Aspects:
-I think that some of the texturing seems repetitive (like on the castle).
-The framerate is also kind of low on my computer (I'd recommend PVS culling, but it could take a while for a map of that size)
-Some people above liked the huge sea of water for gameplay, but I'm not sure I do (I guess it's a matter of opinion in this case!).

Good job!

interesting map, gj!

the detailing is nice, but the geometry is less good. the detailing is nice, even tough there are some edges that arent trimmed very well (maybe a matter of time? :P). further, u can acces the hills around the map by a ramp, what spreads the gameplay to much.

the lightning is pretty strange to, cuase there are 2 very bright lights at both catapults, with no lightsource at it (the rain, maptheme and the atmoshpere make those lights look even more bright). most torches got very bright (white) light, while its more usual to use more yellow/orange/red light (could make the map more realistic).
the lake is actualy, unnecasery deep, it could get less deep and that u still cant c the bottom (decreases file- and mapsize).
pretty much mapmodels has been used on an unefficient way. they actually could easily get replaced by costumised objects.
i think the map should be less filled with bright lights. that would give a better atmosphere and create a better bond with the rain.
the gameplay is pretty good.

ill give 69 points for it. plz improve the map at those points and im sure the rating would get higher.

p.s. isnt it a map with 3 castles? not 2 :P?

Well, it's awesome: besides a couple of small issues, such the battlements looking unrefined, and the thunder effect sounding distorted, that's all I have to say.

if you want to have a quick tour of this map without any download, or if you want to see the gameplay a little, watch this video on youtube : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9TopS0091s

Was this project terminated?

Yeah... It was terminated 6 months ago. Please avoid asking questions like that by the way ;)