I've been waiting for this map forever, and even made my own version once, good to see it.

Some pickens..
1: The maps stikes me as a bit too small, you can jump from side to side with ease, whereas in quake you can only jump half that.
2: Trak5 textures look great, but your usages needs lots of work. You have textures in places that they DO NOT belong, EX: Trim texture on a wall, wall texture on the jumppads ( make your own or find another ) and a wall texture on the starting edge of the jumppads.
3: Jumppads could be tuned a little, the one to were the railgun should be is way to powerful, whereas the ones that shoot you to the armor are weak. They should push you WITHOUT having to hold your forward key.

Ill watch for updates and change my rating accordingly.

Not bad. The fact that it's symmetrical is a turnoff for any game mode except CTF or maybe regen.. But given this was a copy of someone's map this is more of a criticism to them than you. Wait, no it isn't. While this is a take on someone else's map, it is nevertheless your work and you could have changed it accordingly. So, point off for symmetry.

The jumppads are, I agree, of varyingly accurate powers and use. Some are right-on; you use them and you get to where you need to go. Others are too weak, and still others are too strong. The main one is the jumppad cluster in the middle (a jumppad cluster! great idea, why didn't I ever think of that..) so take a look at that. Basically the jumppads should not be useful only if you intentionally move in the direction of their force; they alone should push the player to the appropriate platform. This is because first off, each jumppad has a distinct direction in this map; only one actually pushes a player directly upward. Still all of them look the same and you can't tell by looking at the jumppad which direction you'll go in. So that's the first reason. The second reason is that players are more concerned about not getting shot (or in a map like this, not falling off the edges of the map) than which direction they should be moving in on a jumppad. I'm not even saying make the jumppads have an arrow on them, but maybe tilt them in the direction they launch into. You have that with a few but not all of them.

I don't have a problem with the texturing in the map. A wall texture as Win put it for the jumppad works here to be honest, and in a map as small as this using trim as the main texture on a wall isn't tragic. Maybe work on textures a bit more though.

Good work on the light edges of the paths too. They are slanted but go properly with the angles. They look genuine.

So.. Make this without symmetry if possible, and make the jumppads more logical. Even dust2 was a copy of a popular CS map, but the designer changed it up so it worked better for Sauer. You did change this map, as you said, by making it smaller, but there are other things you could have, or can still, improve.

PS, could you have put more rockets and shells in this? There's a fine line between a fast-paced game and a chaotic, no-strategy campfest. Improve the ammo distribution and HEAVILY cut rockets down.

3/5

windecker:
1: Never played Quake, but i will maybe make the middle a bit wider.
2: are u sure the jumppads look like wall-texture? its ment to be a pannel with a circle on it, more or less what the jumppad-model is like O_o
3: jumppads: well, the "ramps" are able to be improved

Kretren:
1: I wont change the layout. change the layout and its not q3dm17 anymore. You should maybe play the map vs some guys, its fine. This is not an art-map.
2: As said before, im gonna check the jumppads again. But be sure, after playing the second match in eff on that map, you will just use the jumppads like paths.
3: Maybe you should look up the name of the guy that builted dust2.
4: Ammo: maybe i will remove 2 rockets, but i will need to play the map a few more times to make it perfect.

Fatal1ty is a player, not the mapname o_0

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We at Blood Frontier are fans of good ol' Quake maps, good work on this one. I've ported this to BF, tweaked it a little for our needs while adding a few improvements/fixes, and added it to our distribution. Please let me know if you're against this at all and I will remove it, otherwise, thanks for the great map!

A BSP converter would be cool !

Hi,
first I would like to say: I loved this map in Q3 Arena very much!
So I was very exited to test your version. And there a few things, that pretty yellow borders of each platform for example, that I felt in love with. Although you took use of the trak5 textures.

Unfortunately there are some reasons I disliked your map. The most importent point is the poor use of various textures and the very poor usage of light and detail on many things. But all in all you brought me a great inspiration of a conversation of the Q3 DM map17. I tweaked all those little things and made a total new map of it. But at least the reason for my post is as follows: Every detail of that map is done new but I want to respect your initial work for my project. So I decided to ask you: How can I give your the deserved honoration for your work ?

My map is nearly finished and in about a week it will be uploaded right here. But again it's not my intention to steal your work.

List of canges:
-fixed all jumppads to work perfectly (and as you're used to it from Q3)
-took use of much more various textures
-modeled very detailed mapobjects (combined with some really pretty textures they look very eyecandy)
-added really pretty lightscene
-added a bright moon in order to spend more light to parts of the map that were very dark
-tweaked weapon and item placement (more Q3 like and much more balanced)
-added some clip/no clip areas in order to give the map that desired feeling of Q3 (run around everywhere without being stopped by a edge
-improved performance of the hole map, it's now very balanced and runs without any fps lack

sincerly lcf

ps: I will add the link to my map in about a week, when all testing is done ;)