Superrunning | Quadropolis

CountStep | 2009-06-29 21:16

Superrunning

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Blurb A continuously flowing symmetrical map. [Updated: Version 1.1]

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Version 1.1
"Equilibrium"

-=WHAT'S NEW?=-

* Changed a few spots of lighting. Some was artistic, some was the lighting I should've done the first time around.

* Added smoke particles. You may need to turn them off if performance suffers. I don't think it should do too much harm, though.

* Changed position of pick-ups. Reduced Grenade Launcher count to one. Pistol rounds are gone. You won't last very long with a Pistol, anyway, so I justify it with that.

* Added two new methods of movement. The first is the teleporters at the bottom level, completing the whole bottom-middle-top thing, so that all levels can get to every other level in some fashion. Also, there is a giant ventilator shaft you can rifle-jump on top of, leaving you the rest of your rounds to snipe, at the very top level. The bots can't do this, though, so don't exploit it on them. Unless you want to. I would.

* New map boxy, actually a picture of the map this time, although with post-processing Photoshop effects. I just can't leave stuff alone. >_

Map file superrunning_1_1.zip (6.77 MB)

URL http://particolouredelephant.wordpress.com/

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Comments

Windecker | 2009-06-30 01:17

I played this map with bots for 20 minutes, and I very much like the layout, the close quarters, and all the pathways and levels. The shotgun is deadly in the tight halls and with all the paths to take you can cut enemies off very well with a little practice.
The bots play the map well also.

4 Things
12 grenade pickups, verses 4 shells and 4 rifle rounds, and nothing else. Unbalanced ( people may lower their rating cause of that, it happens to me all the time )
Texturing is a little bland, the lighting spices it up, but perhaps some trim at the tops and bottoms of the halls or something.
--- packaging
The folders in your zip should be within a "packages" folder, so it may be extracted to the Sauerbraten directory rather than the packages directory, and I think you should put an actual screen of the map for the loading image.

4 outa 5 for now, I may change my vote if an update comes a runnin. =D
Cheers - Jake

CountStep | 2009-06-30 20:02

Thanks for the ideas, I might try to update it. I mostly did the map because I've been playing Cuber and Sauer so long, I thought I might as well try to map. If I get around to it, I mostly just write music, I might fix the balance issues. I'm not too happy about where I placed the playerstarts, though. I played an hour straight with the bots, trying to record as many possible routes. They sometimes epically FAIL try to get up to the highest hallway, due to the steep slope being the only way up there. I really thought I mucked up the lighting, so thanks for that! I'm not good with colour. Oh, and to clear up any further comments, the hallways are red, blue, green, and PURPLE because I already used yellow to highlight the Yellow Armour below. You probably figured that out, though. Any comments about how it plays online would help, also.

Kretren | 2009-07-01 04:02

Not really playable.. at all. The hallways are small and cramped and there's no fast way to get to the top. Even with the lighting you can get lost, even confusing one level with another.. or that's just me. :S

Idk I'm not a fan of symmetrical maps, but I can at least deal with 2-way symmetry. This is full-on 4-way symmetry which means you only had to do 1/4 the work and copy it ;P but it's also boring.

The other thing is that there's no theme to the map; nothing to make it seem like a building or life as opposed to a series of hallways. There's either no realism or indication that "oh, I'm in this strange building because [insert storyline]". And one of the reasons for this, which makes the map so obviously a map rather than an environment, is the colored lighting indicating where you are.

2/5? The map is still not crappy and is put together with detail. It just doesn't make sense or have playability. (when I say playability, I mean would you want to play this once a week for the next few months as is the case with dm maps on sauer?)

CountStep | 2009-07-01 20:40

Fair enough. The only thing I'd like to point out is that I did every part of this map by hand. There was no copy-pasting done. I don't know how to do that, actually, and didn't bother to check. I had to check how to do particles, though, that's about it.

RaZgRiZ | 2009-07-01 20:47

to copy you select an area and press C, then V to paste over another existing area (it will overwrite all within the selection area, and more if the area is smaller than the copied one!) (will also get canceled if someone enters the server while doing that, so copy again)
and true, sometimes copy and paste can mess up things, sometimes its just better to recreate from scratch

CountStep | 2009-07-03 19:40

Thanks! I knew you _could_ copy&paste, I just didn't know how. I still found it better to do it by hand, it made me feel like I actually MADE the map, as opposed to just making a quarter of it. Also, I know this map wouldn't be for everyone, people have different tastes in maps. I don't personally know how much I'd like this map a month from now, but it's ridiculous with 31 bots. Reminds me of the stupid maps I made for Unreal Tournament, one of which was a simple box filled with turrets. I get bored waaay too often.

MeatROme | 2009-07-04 10:53

Read The Fine Manual (see your local installations "docs" folder)
and
View The Video (see the wiki: Videos and this one on cubevid: Editing 101 )

Windecker | 2009-07-01 22:35

On the doorways that are square with the "world" for lack of a better word, i think you should add trim to, also at the upper level with the four red lights I think you should noclip the lights and add trim to the platforms ( get rid of the hard edges )
Also, there is the area where you can jump to the next level, it has a light texture on it and is has a very sharp edge, I think you should square the edge a little and add a boarder to the light texture.

Update looks great!
Oh, and about the "Not really playable.. " I think it largely depends on who you are and what your used to. I love close quarters, but not everybody else does. and Kretren, it takes me about 8 seconds to go from bottom to top, I think you just need to run around a little bit more and get used to the layout.

CountStep | 2009-07-03 19:50

Yeah, I added a bunch of small details like that to this update, if I update again, I'm sure more nice skrit like that will make its way in. It's funny, those next two things I actually thought about whilst making this update! I might still noclip those tiny lights, but you can use them to add a little bit to your jump across, but I don't think anybody will use those. Oh, any comments about how the ventilation shaft on the top level works would be helpful! If it's crap, I'll axe it, but that level just seemed a bit too bare, so I added it. I think will add trim to the Quad bridge at the top, I might've just gotten lazy this time..

CountStep | 2009-07-03 19:51

Yeah, I should fix those slopes, the bots have a hard time going up them, and they really are just a sharp edge and slope, so I should do something about it.

About how the map should play: if you know how to get around, the lights really help, as they go all the way down the four main sides of the map. The teleporters and random quick-escape holes littered around make it so that you're only in close-quarters when you want to be. The top level is especially open compared to the rest of the map. It's probably a lot better with intelligent people as opposed to bots, though.

Thanks for all the comments, everybody! I'll try to keep updating it, so if you want anything added or taken away, please speak up. I may add another level, or something; after playing on it a while, it feels quite short.

Remember, you can always rifle-jump up from the bridge on the middle level to get that Health Boost, you don't have to go all the way up there and fall through the hole! There's not really an alternate way to get the quad, but there usually isn't on most maps.

- C+S

BionicCryonic | 2009-07-01 23:04

I freakin' loved it. The only noticable flaw I found was the ramps leading to the top floor. It's pretty hard to jump up with that method. The teleporters helped to an extent, but I'd recommend using jumpads to aid the ascent.

The music was awesome. Purely awesome. Halfway through when the beat stopped and the instrumental/string/wah-wah thing started was amazing. The music sounded professional, did you make it?

CountStep | 2009-07-03 19:52

Yeah, I twerked around with that track for a while. I flipped a track I made from the same album backwards and added crap on top of it. If you're interested, the other tracks are on the Count+Step page of http://www.teamhoaxstudios.webs.com/

I just make this stuff when I get bored, so it's nice to hear comments on it!

Jump pads are a good idea, but that might interfere with the underpass directly under it. You'd have to jump over the jump pad to get to drops to the sewers. I'll look into it. That part should be streamlined, since it leads to the Quad+Rifle combo which can quickly lead you on a killing spree.

BionicCryonic | 2009-07-21 18:01

It would be epic if I could listen to that on my Ipod.

MeatROme | 2009-07-21 18:52

Maybe this can help: Video-Free-your-iPod-to-play-OGG-and-FLAC
But in the end there are tons of (free) applications out there to convert OGG to MP3.

RaZgRiZ | 2009-07-21 22:05

there is a program called Free Mp3WmaOgg Converter. Its totally free and does perfect job at converting. Simple to use and drag and drop :D
you can use that to import sounds into SB, i use it for that purpose ;D

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