This map has a simple yet good looking architecture (btw, I prove that I like big pillar because they are big pillar, but not everyone share this taste).

It is obvious that the upper way are open to player, but finding how to go upside is not easy. Two teleporters seems to have been dropped at some corner, and I found the jumppads only because I saw a little something from above. You should integrate those better within architecture. I mean, there is for instance some kind of red throne at each end of the map, and it was obvious for me that flags were there; some teleporters and most of all the jumppads need something to be noticed easily by a ground level player.

An other important things: I thnik you make a mistake while setting a base. In fact, you set a pistol base instead of (I hope) a rifle base.

Kaomé, thank you for advices and for good valutation. Of course the flags are near the "thrones", in fact I guessed there was no need to highlight them further. I thought the jump pads and the teleports was in a good position, but really don't know because I hadn't the opportunity to try the map with other players. Anyway I will fix them.
No mistake with the base, it's really a pistol base! The rifle base in on the top of the roof, in the middle of the "skypath". I don't play capture modes or ffa as well and I wonder that a pistol base was an "error", if so I surely could change the weapon at that base.
Sorry for my english, is a bit rusty, I know ;)

This map has a nice visual style, but one problem is, if you look at the edit stats (where it says "wtr"), there are 266K triangles in it! This would have to be reduced to about 100K triangles for such an open/low-occlusion map to be playable on most Sauer players' computers. The biggest offender is lots of those tiny little repeated fence sections using small cubes, that probably have to be gotten rid of entirely to bring down the total number of triangles.

Do you think you could try and reduce the "wtr" stat to 100K for me? Again, if so, I'd be willing to include it in Sauerbraten as an offical map.

It's so big. yes it lagged a bit on my PC but it's a piece of junk compaired to the new computers. No, your english really isn't all that bad. XD

Great map!
5/5

the curled-block design is cool and basic, and kinda looks asian.

i love the pillars and setup, but since it's laggy for me i would consider it 75% artistic/concept.

Kretren, I never make artistics maps, in my intention maps are meant to be played ;D
Anyway at the moment I am working on it to make it less laggy, I reached 104k triangles instead of 266k, but I think there's no way to reduce further the triangles without changing the basic structure. Eihrul 104k triangles are good enough?
As usual I thank you for advices.

This is definitely one of the more polished maps I've seen. The theme is pretty original and the map is generally very aesthetically pleasing. There is plenty of opportunity for players to use different styles of game play to get the upper hand, and it generally flows very well. Lighting is good enough that I can see everything, but not too intense.
As has been said, it may be a little heavy on my poor ancient graphics card when there are a lot of players, and lag means problems in fast-paced game-play.
I also felt a little exposed in the center of the map as there's a little too much open space for my liking. When you're faced with many enemies coming the other way, you don't stand much chance of making it to your flag with your limbs still intact.

I'm really struggling to find anything wrong with your map, though, and I think that with a little refining it could be perfect. :)

I get rid of almost all the railings and decorations to reduce the amount of triangles, but I hope it worth the effort.
Fixes:
- reduced the amount of triangles (now about 106k)
- replaced the stakes at the bases with larger (and more simple) kind of obelisks;
- replaced the pistol base with a grenade base;
- added some braziers in the middle hall to provide a bit of covering;
I think this is the final version, but I welcome every advice to improve the map.

P.S.: why can't I replace the screenshot?

I dwnload and found the more than 200k triangl version.

You're right Kaomé, but it's not my fault: I uploaded the right file but for some reason the system didn't overwrite it. Now it's ok, anyway this website sometimes is really slow and the connection goes timeout.

Done: all the fountains are at same level now. Thanks for advice ;)

There's a little floating cube near one of the stairs.

Edit: Thanks for fixing it. It looks like a great map!

Fixed. Thanks c0rdawg, my old eyes didn't notice it ;)

I really like Geometry
nice map

nice map :)
5.0

i realy like the way it looks :D, but ive played it with sum1 and it really felt bad =s. I think its actually to big for a good cft or capture map, because u will get much camping in it and at u will get at capture that u never can protect ur base if ur already at the enemies =s.

3/5 for looking :D.

@suicizer:
you do should know that campers will ALWAYS camp, everywhere, on every map; no way you can avoid that, map dimensions or geometry are pretty irrelevant with them.
Yes, this map is big, it is obvious (or at least very probably) that this one will never be played on a 3vs3 or 4vs4 tournament, but I think valhalla is very suitable for crowded public servers.

there arent much ways u can camp at reissen and u can avoid camping, by warning them (as admin or master) that they get kicked if they continue camping (like most first person shooters already got this system).

(btw, plz comment why u gave ctf_valley that rate)

Nice solution suicizer...
@Viruz: I guess it is obvious that suicizer knows that nobody (not only on TC servers) is going to kick players just because they camp: if a player could be kicked for that, the camping would be a problem any longer I suppose, no matter the map :)

if u look at other first person shooters (as example, open arena or teeworlds), then they really kick (not 30min bann) if ur camping :D. I even saw once a script that makes u suicide if ur standing still longer then sumthing like 10sec (at teeworlds :P).

btw, if u take the much times the possiblities u can camp at reissen, and the possiblities u can camp at valhalla...

I have one question, don't get angry at me for not knowing, but... where do I get cube? I got my version off sourceforge, but I know its not the latest version because it doesn't include some maps and mods that are supposed to be included in the newest version.

if you must know. http://sauerbraten.org/

but howd you find THIS website and not the official one?