Beta version? thank god for that lol.

* I think they are too few pickups for a map this size, I didn't find any nades and only one armour.

* I also wonder what's the use of those details on the two roofs on the outside as it's not accessible (even with riflejump).

* May I also suggest using more different textures, all the rooms look a bit the same (I /hidestats lol).

For the rest the flow is OK, nice wide areas ;)

I won't vote the map yet as it is still in the beta yonder stages, but i will comment.

Firstly to avoid comments by the site admins (:P), i suggest you make the map a zip file with the correct packaging. My guess is you didn't have enough time to do so as I haven't seen you today but take the time to.

The map has a great flow, but (though I think too many textures is a bad thing) that you have way overused that dark brick texture. It somehow makes me calm and bored. Also as with ac_dune (thinking of it as a "desert hazard") i think this is a "mud rust" because of the textures. No problem with this but just making a note. @ Cleaner: Why leave an area undetailed just because you can't get up there? IMO i can actually get up there via rifle jump (or nade jump via the side area).

Good flow with the map kc, I like it so far, stick around editing it, so it shall make a top class map :)

r4zor, i fixed the packaging deal, fixed the textures

cleaner, i am working on the pick-ups and more will be added for the next beta update

for the next beta update, i am adding some stuff to fill in a few of the open areas (not making them to small neither, merely cover), more detailing, already fixed pick-ups, and added ffa spawns that i forgot, should be ready in a few days or a week at best

Hey KC,

My first bone to pick is where the hell do you get the time to keep knocking maps out; do you ever actually sleep? I haven't yet downloaded the newer version so I may be off the ball a bit. I will hold back on a few comments until I check it out. But for now I like the layout a lot and it can handle a few players too.

There are a few areas where the door openings line up in the approaching field of view. It results in players from both sides getting a good view of each other, who is there and who is on their way. I felt that it made it hard to progress (no surprises) as the opposing team would come straight for you to defend, before you even got near the flag. I haven't made my mind up if that is good or bad; I felt I needed a different strategy than normally practiced. Maybe something to block that view or changing the position of the doors. But only if it is an issue that others find.

Still you are developing a great map.

the doors ended up kind of bad i agree jiba, my biggest concern more than half way done with the map was the camping problem, how they are set up in some places are perfect for camping

i was thinking about maybe adding a few small paths (not base to base paths) to ease the flow alittle, give more room to roam about

and no, jiba i don't sleep, lol